[cdennewitzParticipant]

My biggest issue is the lack of support for the dual mix rack setup. You still can not set this up offline, it is not considered in the IPAD software, and there is no easy way to add a monitor desk. It appears as though Yamaha has done this with the new CL series using more than 2 mix racks. I love my system just wish the dual rack was truly embraced.

112T
IDR16
IDR31

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Got it, that is what I thought but wanted to verify my IDR was not bad

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

I want the ablity to connect two surfaces while using dual mix racks. I have the open ACE spot on my main IDR, on my ACE card, I know I would have to run another piece of cat5 to the second surface, but that would be my one Ilive dream.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

I just use mine as mix recalls, so which ever one I push that is what I am mixing on my faders. Always want that quik access to the monitor mixes.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

I now have a question I have a similar setup, and I thought that the first 32 channels of ace between the two mixracks were already taken up by the slave sending info back. I started my returns on 33, and it is working fine. If I am wrong let me know, I may not change my setup but will know for future setups.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Thanks for the info portion on my system. I was not plugged into the ace plug, as they are all taken up by my ACE connections. It does make sense that I was sending the same info on two systems and that is why I had issues. My though was it would be more of a back up, so if my Dura Cat going to the stage were broken I could still take control over that IDR, I now have it setup so I can plug in a network cable if needed to take over control in an emergency.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Now that you mention it I have, but thought it was somthing in my power sequencer or my UPS, but the IDR 16 is right there withthem. It is quite odd. I have heard them while not setting at the desk but next to so I was doing nothing with the console.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Okay I am pushing limits I believe, but I have found somthing that always makes this system crash. I have a T112 surface, an IDR-16 of Foh, with an ACE card attached to an IDR-32 on the stage. When the three pieces are link only between with ACE, but when I try to use the network connections and put the three pieces on the computer network as well, I start getting errors on the net bridge, and loosing the control of the IDR’s. Is there a rule that only one piece of the system should be on the network? Thanks!

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Allow me to correct myself, there is a way to address outputs to the slave IDR, it involves ACE, and when I figure it out I will post it. Sorry for confusion.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Yes he does, I was in one of them, but the other consoles were only able to use the inputs from the first IDR, if you were to plug in inputs to the later boxes the first console would not be able to see it. What he was doing was the digital split that was always avalible. With 1.6 you can use inputs from two IDRs to one surface, taking that one surface to 128 channels of DSP. The issues is that since both IDRs are being controled from one surface there is no way to share control of the IDR’s This setup is for situations like mine where I have a bunch of wireless at FOH and need alot of inputs on stage. The only way right now for me to do a true monitor split is to have an analog split and go into a third IDR. Tha is the setup that is currently going out with Brad Paisley, he has Three IDR’s, and an analog split.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Yes that would be very nice as I am doing a show with the T112, IDR 48, IDR 32, PL6, and a computer. The PL6 and computer are on stage for my coworkers to help with Monitors. I will be doing most of it from FOH, but this way they will be able to help out. They are mostly mic jockeying for me, as the show is a vaudville style show where it is one song after another and each one has new mics. Up to 49 inputs, and 10 monitor mixes and the first practice is this weekend so that could go up. I am putting the new desk to the test.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

From what I understand if you do that you are just setting up the regular moniotr system as in previous versions. There currently is no way to set up the new dual stage box setup where you have inputs going into both boxes and connect two surfaces and share inputs from both as a digital split. The issue is the second surface needs it’s own dsp. I have heard that in the future this may be possible but it would require a third IDR for the DSP for the second surface.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

depending on how many I/O you need at FOH, one thing I learned just today when using dual IDR’s you can from what I can find only use the outputs on the first IDR, but keep in mind there are still a few on the back of the surface of hte T112. I have a similar set up as you it sounds so I do have some stuff to work around as well. I would also recomend the new Sennheiser G3 300 series wireless as they are priced well and have remote software so you can put your recievers on stage and monitor them from FOH.

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

I have one that may have been covered, but I would like the ablity to change the size of the window in the editor. Most of the time I am running editor on dual monitors and have the program stretched across both monitors so if I could stretch the boxes and not have to worry about the slide bars and panning back and forth. That would be great!

Chad

[cdennewitzParticipant]

Mr B.
I understand how this works with the standard setup but my confusion comes in when we are using firmware 1.61 where a single surface can be connected to two stage boxes and use the inputs, and Dsp from both. This allows for 128 channels of IP processing (still only 32 OP Processing), so from what I have read you can not do the traditional set up for monitors. I am new to to console, and trying to figure alot of things out. I am awaiting more info on this but with there already being two stage boxes in the mix, there is no where for the IDR0. However the second IDR still has the unsed ACE port on it to connect a second surface, I think.

Thanks!

Chad

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