[YannParticipant]

Jafejo, dont do that! You’ll regret it. Ive used both and midas doesnt come close! Dont think they are similar, they really aren’t!

I got a replacement through the distributor easily! Havent had a single problem since!

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How do you guys know what your gains are before soundcheck? You need to do a bit of work on the night you know 😛 😛

[YannParticipant]

But the DX Hub can link consoles and stage boxes can’t it?

[YannParticipant]

lol it will be officially named as A&H Christmas morning!

[YannParticipant]

Baylink, As I said on FB, that is a good option and maybe there would be a option somewhere to switch between the 2 work modes. As with a lot of things I think we need to try them on the night to know if they work or not. Things need to be intuitive.

Lightingman, I like your idea too but when you go to do that pressing the mute group softkey will surely unmute the group immediately.

Maybe you hold the reset button and press the mute on the channel to release it??

Whichever method, the desk should still keep that channel in the group and next time the soft-mute is hit, its all back to normal. Thoughts?

[YannParticipant]

+1 for the main post and for all the additional comments (up to this point haha)

[YannParticipant]

Why? and also.. Stereo delay fx inserted onto the bus 0% dry 100% wet?

[YannParticipant]

+1

[YannParticipant]

Talk into the mic while looking at the the input meters page. It must be accidentally assigned to an input channel. Maybe one that doesn’t have a strip.

[YannParticipant]

There is no visable link. It is 1 channel strip, 1 EQ, 1 Gain, but 2 inputs. Check the input selection and it should be taking from 2 inputs. It does not use ganging like the other brands. Much better for space saving!

[YannParticipant]

Definitely what you say is true Jens, I will be a very small minority. But people will have outboard that they like and know well, and even outboard that is not contained in the FX library of the SQ.

Its just another option that is there if people need it. The SQ is packed with different ways to do things, some of which will rarely be used but its all about that time when you have that difficult client that wants this, this and this… and you know the SQ can do it. Or if you dont.. you try and find the way that you didn’t know before.

Its actually very easy to use up the channels too, I’m using 38. (including 16 track playback from logic to be fair)

I know 1 thing people love about Dlive is that “there’s always a way” and this should reflect in SQ too. I actually dont really use analogue outboard but people clearly do and its just another really elegant solution that will be great to know is there when the time comes.

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I’m with you on that philosophy. But A&H put the forum here for feedback. I guess if they can do it, they will and if they can’t they wont.

I dont think the Sends will go to outputs, that wasn’t my suggestion. They still only go to Rack 1-4, but on the back panel of the rack (on screen) there would be an insert in routing option. Choose the 2 output sockets and 2 input sockets that the outboard is linked up to.

Using digital inserts like this allows all outboard to be just plugged into the mixer however it fits, and all the routing done on screen. Easier setup, and easier to make changes. Swap analogue for digital, move outboard to a different rack. Easy peasy! Digital and Analogue all integrated together on the FX tab!

[YannParticipant]

Ok I was overthinking with the 8 sockets arrangement. I didn’t think of putting the FX physically in series between a mix out and an input. You got me 🙂

But Steffen, you can’t say its not made for this purpose. The whole point of the FPGA core is that is completely reconfigurable and customisable.

I do think A&H need to allow the Rack FX to patch in analogue inserts. What if you’re using up 4 groups and 8 Auxes and want 2 outboard units? Its a shame to waste 4 dedicated busses and 8 Stereo returns if your outboard is analogue, not to mention wasting 2 desk inputs per unit by using an Aux. If you are a theatre with 30+ wireless mics this is going to piss you off eventually.

What do you think?

[YannParticipant]

I have just done some experimenting, and came here to post my findings, and sadly Steffen is right!

You will have to insert your gear onto a Aux (using up 2 inputs and 2 outputs) you will then have to route that Aux to 2 output sockets and connect them straight back into 2 input channels (putting pads on them of course).

This definitely needs addressed cos thats 8 local sockets and 2 input channels wasted to make 1 outboard FX bus.

Anyway below is my failed method (so no one else wastes their time)

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I hadn’t yet discovered why I couldnt pull FX Returns 5-8 down onto the surface. Now I realise those 4 racks have to be routed to something (bus/main/channel/matrix) Even if there is an empty rack, it enables the use of the FXrtn 5-8. This only works if the rack is assigned to Mix+Return. Not insert.

So I made rack 5 a mix/return for Aux 5 on the desk. Then Inserted my outboard directly onto Aux 5…. and got no audio into FXrtn 5.

So I added an effect (it was empty at first) and the audio came back in fine, also with the effect added in. So I tried to bypass the effect on its settings, Turning everything down to 0 but the reverb will always add something.

Tried the delay with the in/out filters overlapping each other but that also cut out the audio coming back to the return.

Could have tried the chorus with settings to 0 but I gave up cos when I realised this is silly. A&H simply need to allow a local analogue insert onto an FX bus. All 1-8, not just 5-8.

Will write in Feature suggestion soon. Please correct me if I’ve missed anything obvious.

[YannParticipant]

You are right Jens, it will never be as good as a dedicated software like smaart but theres no reason why it can’t be used for room tuning, it just needs layed out in a bar graph over both types of EQ with options for averaging by turning the universal encoder.

The Midas/berhinger surfaces work in this way and those companies sell that feature as being able to tune a room. And SQ is 20x better than those desks. A&H need to at least match them if not better them if they want people to switch to SQ.

Of course it wont have 60+ bands on it for detail but it will be enough for a small 4 piece band just running an SQ5, being able to turn up at a venue, and quickly and easily (with no need for laptops and setting up audio interfaces) do a rough tune before their show. It’s better than doing no tuning and as most people can’t afford $1000+ for smaart it continues reinforcing the SQ as an all in 1 solution.

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