[TomParticipant]

See
SLink Connections

You would need an SLink card in the IO port, so you have 2 SLink ports in your desk:
one SLink port in DX mode for DX168 and one in dSnake mode for AB168.
Obviously not an option, since you need the Dante card in the IO port.

You could also buy the Dante version, DT 168.
Costs more, but might be more flexible in terms of network topology.
Or any other Dante converter with enough output channels for your Subs of course.

[TomParticipant]

Hi Tobi,

my SQ’s are also on 1.5.10.
Probably some problem with the change to the new web site design?

The 1.5.10 release notes say:

V1.5.10
Additional Features:
ID-1916: Support for DX88-P added.
ID-1936: Support for Dante V3 option card following component changes.
ID-1902: Support for SLink option card following component changes.
Issues Fixed:
ID-1914: I/O Screen now indicates correct number of sockets for V3 Dante cards.
ID-1879: Disconnecting DX Hub whilst powered on could cause DC noise on inputs.

[TomParticipant]

DCAs answer your question.
You would assign the AUX masters to a DCA and control the masters with 1 fader.
Then, to get individual control per mic channel:

• In your speaker AUX mixes set the mic Channel(s) to Post fader
• in each AUX mix, set the Mic fader(s) to e.g. 0 dB
• once set the AUX master levels
• now use the Mic fader in the Main Mix to control the sends to all the AUXes where this channel is set to post fader.

And the DCA fader to control the output masters.

Hope this helps, or sorry if I misunderstood your question.

[TomParticipant]

Do you have global and/or scene specific recall filters maybe?
`Mix -> “Name / Color”

Channel safes might also be a reason.

Names are stored in scenes AFAIK, but filters can prevent them from being loaded during scene recall.

[TomParticipant]

Regarding the earlier question about PC/Mac software to control Qu Mixers:
There is third-party software available, e.g. Mixing Station.

Regarding iPad accessories I have no idea what does or does not work with which iOS version.
I use a bluetooth receiver connected to Qu for playing music from iPad/PC/Android phone.
Might be cheaper and more flexible than original iPad adapters.

[TomParticipant]

Depending on the number of microphones, distinct EQ settings and free processing channels you can take a different approach:
Split the microphone input socket to as many processing channels as you have different EQ settings.
That is, patch the input socket to multiple input channels.

Now, for each of the input channels load one of your EQ presets.
Duplicate everything else (preamp, processing except EQ, routing, sends).
From your external control system unmute the channel with the EQ setting you want, and mute all the others.

You can do that splitting even on Qu if your inputs come from dSnake.
Bonus: you can set meaningful channel names e.g. per vocalist.

[TomParticipant]

Maybe you can store scenes with the correct EQ settings in the mixer and recall these from the automation system?
It is chapter 3.1 in
SQ-MIDI-Protocol-Issue5.pdf

Best regards

[TomParticipant]

Sorry to read that.
I can’t imagine how only the connectors can be broken.
At least some driver/interface ICs (SMD I think) are probably damaged in both devices.

SteffenR is right, your devices must be repaired by professional service.

Ethernet isolators + good surge protection can reduce the risk next time.

[TomParticipant]

+1
I also often can’t place left and right delay speakers in the same distance from stage and the other matrixes are in use already.

[TomParticipant]

Hi,
if you have an ethernet switch with per-port indicator LEDs you can do a quick test:
Connect SQ’s SLink port to the switch and see if the link LED comes up on the switch.
If it is a gigabit switch, the SQ might show “DX” connected in the IO screen.
Then try the same with the AR2412’s dSnake port and see if the link comes up on the switch.

PS: I once forgot the AR2412 has a power switch on the back until someone shut mine off. That’s obviously not the case here because you wrote the power light is on.

Good luck!

[TomParticipant]

After the show last night I just pulled the power cable from my DT168 stagebox before plugging out the mics.
This is very quick but makes sense only after the show of course.

I’m not at the console right now, but played around in SQ MixPad..
You can add a scene to your show with phantom power turned off on all input sockets, and scene recall filters for that scene that block everything but the preamps:

• Input/FX … Preamp
• Mix/Main .. Ext In Preamp
• Mix/Matrix .. Ext In Preamp
• Other/Input Sockets .. Tie Line Only Preamps

Then assign a softkey to recall that scene, and e.g. one to “Scene Previous” for getting back the scene with phantom powers on.

The problem is this might only work with consistent patching. If your scenes change the patching of input sockets I think this would not work.

A “global phantom power on/off” feature like in some analog consoles would be great in the situations you described.

[TomParticipant]

It is possible, but officially it is not supported.

First solution (very experimental!):
If you want to try if it works for you, here are some important things:
You need managed switches with VLAN support.
You must create a separate VLAN for the SQ’s IO port and the AR2412’s dSnake port across both switches.
Consult your switches’ documentations on how to do this.
Pay special attention to “tagged” and “untagged” settings:
The ports where SQ/AR are connected, are untagged and not member of any other VLAN.
The “trunk” ports carry the dSnake VLAN tagged.
No other ports may be assigned / member of the dSnake VLAN.
The switches must be configured such that no additional traffic is generated on the VLAN.
For example discovery protocols etc must be disabled for the VLAN.
The “backbone” connection between the switches must be Gigabit (or faster).
If the link between the switches has high load, you will get audio problems.
The switchports to which SQ’s IO port and the AR2412 must be set to a fixed link speed of 100 MBit/s.
Otherwise SQ can detect a DX link instead of dSnake.
If that happens the IO screen will show ‘DX’ instead of ‘dSnake’.

We run such a setup, but the traffic on the other VLANs is very low (Sennheiser WSM and Artnet).
We have not tried it with a additional video transmission through the same cable.

It works for a connection
SQ<->Switch<->Switch<->AR2412

When we try this:
SQ<->Switch<->Switch<->[AR2412 Expander port]<->AB168
the expander AB168 shows Link errors and audio is interrupted.

Second solution:
dSnake is Fast Ethernet, and Fast Ethernet works with only 4 of the 8 wires in a Cat cable.
If 100 MBit link speed is ok between your switches, better use a pair of ethernet port doublers like Delock 65177.
Then you use 2 of the 4 pairs in the ethernet cable for the switch-switch connection,
and the other 2 pairs for the SQ-AR2412 connection.
So you have 2x 100 Mbit links on 1 cable (I hope this is readable):

Port Doubler1 Port Doubler2
FOH router.. A A……..Stage switch
+———-Cat cable———+
SQ………..B B……..AR2412

[TomParticipant]

It should be available for recall from the library when you’re in the Mix->GEQ screen and press the “Lib” button.
It doesn’t replace the regular EQ model by itself (you could have bought other EQ models too, so the SQ wouldn’t know which one you want).

[TomParticipant]

Sorry if I misunderstood, but couldn’t you just change the mixer role to “Listen Level”?
Instead of a channel strip the listen level is on the main fader, but at least it’s on a fader.
If you still need LR on a fader you can assign it to a channel strip.

Reference Guide V1.5.0 Issue 5 12.13 Mixer Role and Master Fader Mode

[TomParticipant]

Did he try to disable the mobile data connection?
Some phones don’t work well in wifi networks without internet access.

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