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Originally posted by mumu
hmm
it would be great if you guys from a&h could supply the presets you made…as a starter.. i am a notorious “preset sharer” my i live basic
shows are all over here
cheers
dave
Hi Dave,
I didn’t go further than a few faders and mute buttons, just to ensure it was a feasible solution. I used the GS-R24 template projects for Bome’s – available on our website – and manually changed the incoming and outcoming MIDI strings. You have to type in the strings as specified in the iLive MIDI Protocol.
Cheers,
Nicola
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Originally posted by nicola
Hi All,
For all computer geeks out there – a workaround on this is using iLive MIDI.
iLive MIDI protocol uses a lot of NRPN messages which can’t be automatically assigned to parameters in a DAW. However using a converter such as Bome’s MIDI Translator, it’s possible to manually program an iLive-to-standard-MIDI map (and viceversa) or even an iLive-to-HUI map.
https://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator – this is the same software we currently recommend for our GS-R24 recording desk.
We tried this with a standard MIDI interface and succeded in hooking up a T-112 to Sonar, Reaper, Pro Tools and others.
Apart from controlling your favourite DAW software, this allows recording automated moves and using a DAW session to automate fader levels, mutes and scene recalls on an iLive.
I hope this helps,
Nicola
A&H
hmm
it would be great if you guys from a&h could supply the presets you made…as a starter.. i am a notorious “preset sharer” my i live basic
shows are all over here
cheers
dave
allen&heath iLive-144 /idr 10 / idr 48 /dante (i want midi in dante!)
Anonymous
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Originally posted by steffenromeiss
quote:
Originally posted by Düsenklang
In the describe of the Ilive Editor 1.80 it´s
possible to control the FX Tap Tempo via Midi but i cant find it.
AND for the future: i wish MIDI IN/Out on my Rack direkliy in Ilive Editor as a physical Midi in/out.
https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/CategoryDocuments/iLive%20MIDI%20Protocol%20V1.8.pdf
SRV-AVB
R-72, iDR-16, xDR-16
https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/SoftwareDocuments/4678.pdf
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quote:
Originally posted by Düsenklang
In the describe of the Ilive Editor 1.80 it´s
possible to control the FX Tap Tempo via Midi but i cant find it.
AND for the future: i wish MIDI IN/Out on my Rack direkliy in Ilive Editor as a physical Midi in/out.
https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/CategoryDocuments/iLive%20MIDI%20Protocol%20V1.8.pdf
SRV-AVB
R-72, iDR-16, xDR-16
quote:
Originally posted by joefi
hi there,
does anybody know if its possible to use Euphonics MC Control
with mixrack / editor?
regards……. joe
Joe – you may be interested in my custom environment for Logic that gets a Mackie Control working with Editor. It allows quick access to all iLive channel faders, mutes, PAFL and pans. I have an old video on UTube which shows some details, however this is now way out of date as it was made before Editor supported midi. See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhMbfmfpPoQ. My new logic environment works directly with Editor so requires no external midi interface other than to get to the Mackie Control. Any device that supports MC protocol will also work with it.
Cheers
Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad,Tweak,
Dual M-Dante/DVS, 17″MBP/Logic 9/Custom Mackie Control
It should be possible as described above, but editor does not have native euphonics control nor mackie control, so you won’t see features like signal strenght indication per channel.
If you would find out how to get the channel names from the mixrack, i would be interested. It’s in the MIDI protocol, but I haven’t heard of any succes stories for that.
I would also like to hear what’s the quality and the noise level of the faders used.
Wouter
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Originally posted by Stix
Or Editor with a good MIDI controller – although they don’t yet include aux’s or EQ in the MIDI spec. A Cheap Behringer BCF2000 could work well and others here have used it. I use a Mackie Control …
I also use a BCF2000 but the faders are cheap and noisy so I don’t use fader feedback during more quiet concerts 
Did you notice by the way that using MIDI on the editor you have acess to the aux sends, by pressing the Mix buttons?
Something like Eucon (Artist Mix i.e.) or HUI or Mackie control protocols offer the possibility to show the channel names (like your mackie) and show metering info per channel. I know you have the same thing by copying the names in your iLive system in Logic, but it’s exactly this step that could be prevented if the same integration between logic and you Mackie control would be directly implemented in the editor. (Again, integration of Mackie control or a eucon adapter could do the trick)
Again, I wouldn’t even mind to pay a little bit for such an expansion to the editor functionality. If it would offer the possibility to have it’s own “USB-controller” strip layout that could be saved in the editor’s show and scenes it would be a great extension for small (and especially light weight!) set-ups.
An R72 offers a touch-screen PC inside and is great for rental companies as a integrated setup, but people that do their own mixing and on a more modest budget can do without the integrated touchscreen PC of the R72, they will be happy to use the editor/Mixpad for those purposes. @rexeltw: the R72 is quite far from “nearly the same price”, I think
Still hope for a modest dedicated USB-80 interface No local I/O, no ACE, just the fader part of the T80 maybe with the 12 buttons for standard EQ, for other processing use the editor, channel metering on small oLED screens above the channel faders (or one oLED screen), prevailing the spirit of iLive on a modest budget (somewhere around 2000€, which could be doable if you look at other offers on the market, you can get this MC mix for 830€ incl VAT for 8 touch sensitive faders...). I’ll be using the Dante connection to the editor laptop to stream intro music to the iLive, and I would use Dante to have PAFL available at the editor. For that the 4ms or 10ms delay isn’t problematic at all, since I’m never that close to the stage.
Notice that also other companies start marketing scaled down versions of their mixers but often they’re not as exchangeable as in the iLive series, and they mostly have all I/O locally. That’s the immense strength of the iLive series.
Wouter
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Originally posted by RayS
dschmoldt! can you elaborate on your setup with sfx? I am prepping a show with Qlab with similar needs to trigger scene changes from within the application….as there is no midi access to the editor I will have to use a midi interface (was hoping to do away with this) and trigger all internally, since both Qlab and Editor are on the same mac……..
Triggering scene recalls with the iLive through MIDI is pretty similar to scene recalls with a Yamaha, Behringer and other digital mixers. They all use the same protocol.
Basically send a MIDI command as a Program Change (C0h), then for MIDI data, send the scene number you want to record mus 1, since MIDI is zero-based.
Example: To recall Scene 5, send a Program Change with a MIDI data of 4.
If you need to recall iLive scenes higher than 128, do the same thing using MIDI bank 2.
David Schmoldt
In Scene view I would like to see the active scene highlighted in colour (eg Green or blue) separate to the curser orange colour which would remain for navigation to next scene etc.
Could we have an auto scene advance preference/option – Would be useful in theatre shows where scenes are stepped through each night.
How about a quick Key combination to Save all to the current scene – my suggestion is to hold down the red RESET button + press “GO”. Also to update the current scene – how about hold down the red PASTE button + press “GO” . So: RESET + GO = Store ALL Paste + Go = Update
I would like a scene “preview” mode that allows a scene to be actively viewed and edited without actually being recalled. If this is even possible I imagine it would require a very obvious visual indication that you were in this mode! – Like PAFL and channel peak leds flashing? The Reset switch could provide a quick exit from preview mode (like the GEQ Fader Flip switch exits GEQ mode).
In the Scene Reorder mode there is a bug (I Think). When in single select mode when you apply an edit (copy/move or remove) the scene view jumps back to and selects scene 1. It would seem to me that there is actually no need for the single select mode as you can do all edits (move copy or remove) in multi Select mode. It would therefor follow that you don’t need the multi Select mode button either – you just need Reorder mode! [
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Mackie Control midi protocol support would be cool! The ilive surface could then be a controller or the mix could be controlled by studio software/hardware.
Hi Kari and Millst,
We take both points on board. Millst, PL Designer is on a to do list, although no time frame yet im afraid, and it does make a very nice way of creating a custom interface. It communicates however using our own proprietary network protocol which as Kari says restricts its use.
Just had a look at the SFX spec, and the MIDI output for a Cue on SFX Standard looks like it would talk to the current iLive MIDI implementation. In the future if we implementated Telnet, it also looks like SFX Deluxe can output telnet commands, so there is a possible tie in there, although i can’t see any documentation on how customisable the telnet strings are ? Bottom line, I think both external control protocols will be required eventually to satisify all users.
Cheers.
Andy
A&H
Hello All
Currently external control protocols are limited to MIDI. There is discussion of a telnet server being included in a future firmware release, similar to that on iDR8. If anyone has a wish list of features to be controlled via telnet, feel free to post them and we’ll add them to the list. Metering is always the sticking point, as telnet works via request / response, so delivering a metering payload on a regular basis over telnet is tricky to code. Hope that helps.
Andy
A&H
