[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

We are talking anything from a single Stand Up comedian, a corporate presentation to folk, rock, pop band, theater and musicals and a few smaller festivals.
And they did not abuse this console harder than any other console (some took this over a larger M console, and when they swapped the X out for the similar M they had zero problems)

@mfk0815
I have products from that brand 20-25 years old that still work flawlessly, and of the 4 preamps I have had 2 still work fine.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

They DID get tech support, and all of the times the console had to be shipped back in for repairs.
And I know they are not the only ones with problems like that, several other companies and bands have reported similar errors.

When I think back, only two products from B comes to mind ad buggy, the second being an eight channel mic pre amp – A/D, tending to fry the psu. 😉

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

Must be bad luck 🙂

Odd part is when the bad luck only revolve around a single console model.

And yes I am in the Northern Europe where we need our equipment as rugged as our Mead :p

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

2 of the X32’s had to have the main processor boards switched 4 times in one year.
6 of them randomly stopped working mid shows either their faders or buttons.
4 of them had PSU fails 2-3 times a year.
4 randomly changed input patches for no apparent reason (no scene/show recalls made)
6 of them had PCB lanes breaking up

Not attacking the brand as such, had several well working items from the over the years.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

All equipment will be able to fail, the question is how fast.

9 of 10 consoles of a single model is way too much IMHO

They have around 12 or 15 different models of digital consoles in their stock, and most of those have fail ratio of 1-2 in 10, only consoles to have 5+ in 10 failing are from that single brand.

The most reliable consoles I have met are A&H and Yamaha, in 30+ years, I have had 1 of each fail.
1 A&H GLD that was bugged and reprogrammed DCA groups at random, when you touched the armrest.
1 Yamaha LS9 with a faulty PSU cooler, resulting in surface latenzy – IE you recalled next scene and the screen + surface did not change for like 5 seconds.

Analog I have had a few on several brands, some not even on the market anymore.

But we are digressing a bit from the topic now.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

X32 as far as I have encountered them, can be ok stable in enviroments where they are not moved around too much.

Met companies who regretted they bought 10+ X32’s for touring, one company had 9 of the 10 consoles failing several times during a period of 6 months of tours.
(A few of their Digimute failed as well 😉 )
The two M32’s they had never had a single “hickup” (neither did the other Midas nor the A&H consoles they have in stock)

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

Take a look on your I/O and see if the socket is patched to more than one channel.
Could be you have it into a second channel on another Layer, also sending to that Aux mix.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

The AUX can be patched to multiple output sockets, like local 1 and S-Link 1 or more.

Then it should cycle through all the sockets the AUX is patched to.

Where on the input side it is much more usable to fast see what socket has been patched to the channel.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

I will wait and see what they want.

Got a call short ago, that they are talking about getting a completely new setup instead.

Thanks for the replies though, much appreciated.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

The contact wires looked fine.

But in case I get it on the workbench I might as well just swap the connectors for a fresh set then.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

I read him as “if I change the (pre amp) gain while in a mix, does that change the gain in other mixes on that channel as well” – to that I dare say it will, since the (pre amp) gain affects everything on that channel.

When he talk about mixes, I read it as the Aux/monitor/fold back mixes and if the panning in the main mix of a channel will change the panning in an Aux/mix as well.
Think he is using a stereo Aux/mix to make a completely different streaming mix fader-level wise, and was curious if the panning on the mainmix would “bleed over” in his stream mix. 🙂

And yes, when oldtimers like Mark and I say Gain, we more or less always mean the Pre Amp 😉

I tend to find a fitting level, and then try not to touch the gain unless it is close to clipping, as I often run Dante and record multitrack direct from the Dante network as well.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

You talk about faders, where Steffen and OP talk about Gain, two completely different things.

All Aux sends made from a channel will be affected by the Gain on the input to that channel.

That your faders are not affecting your mixes is simply because you have your mixes set to Pre, the normal way of doing monitor mixes, as opposed to post wich is usually used for Fx sends and similar.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

There is 1 mini jack, but as it is used as “aux in” it is unbalanced stereo and thus 2 channels 😉

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

It should be possible, but you need to do the Dante patch in Dante Controller.

[Søren SteinmetzParticipant]

The PRO has mic pre-amps, that can be controlled by Neutrik’s remote software gain/phantom wise.

My guess is, an implementation of that will open a Pandoras box of wishes to control other Dante equipment as well.
(like Yamaha’s RiO/TiO etc)

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