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@keith ?

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so, the discussion is dead? Why?

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Of course, I know, they’re not exactly the same. And that is for a good reason.

And I appreciate, that you try to give us products, which are durable and have better quality, than lot of other brands in the same price range. But to be honest. the SQ is out since about 2 yrs now, I guess. But already has more threads in the troubleshooting page, Than the GLD or dLive, which are out for a much longer time.
Also, I know a lot more people with an X32, than I know with an SQ. But on the other hand, I know more people, that had problems with their SQ, than I know people, that had problems with an X32, which is really sad (mentioning the dead rotary knobs, faders, the unusable USB interface, because of weird noises, even a year after release and so on at the SQ.). These plastic behringer things are durable, so I don’t see the point of your argument, regarding durability. I think A&H is losing that discipline against behringer in that price range. Also, you could buy two x32 for the price of an SQ6. So, if one is broken and you have to send it in, there’s your backup, but that’s not the point of the discussion here. Nobody did question the durability in the first place, but let’s be honest here: SQ had (and maybe still has?) its problems..

I know, that this processing comes from dLive and I always love to use this, when working with a dLive out there. I prefer a dLive over every other desk, just because of the usability and it’s matching my workflow 100%. But the processing on dLive is onboard and you don’t have to pay extra cash for it.
I understand the logic behind selling plugins as an extra add-on, but it is exactly, like idolwawa said.
An SQ with its plugins will never be the same, as a dLive. I see the point of buying the compressors, which are in dLive (even though, the best for vocals of them is still missing on SQ..the LA-2A), because you can use it exactly, as you can use it on the dLive.
But paying for multi band compressors and dynamic EQ’s, when the SQ isn’t fully capable of using them is just plain stupid.
I have so many shows with a dLive, with only 24-32 channels. and I always use least 6-8 instances of dyn8 to get rid of every unwanted frequencies, but still get the pressure and fat sound, that I want to mix.

Running free plugins on an old laptop was not the argument, at the beginning. That’s not really usable in live situations because of stability and latency and you know that of course.
Waves plugins still sound better, than the Plugins on most desks out there, but still they are cheaper. Also you can use them in your DAW, too.
And because you’re speaking about sound quality and latency. I don’t think, it can be too bad with waves plugins. Otherwise nobody with an Digico, Midas Pro or even an SSL Live would use Waves plugins. And I’ve seen a lot of guys doing this.

So what I am questioning, is the price for the Plugins with your ideology behind it. For every company with more than one desk, it’s just ridiculous to pay the plugins for every desk. Nobody, that will buy your desk afterwards will care about it (Well, of course they will, but they won’t pay one penny more for the desk, just because it has plugins..)

When releasing new plugins, the gap will become smaller for a waves rack. As I said, on Black Friday you can get really good deals for REALLY good plugins. And of course you can use them on EVERY desk out there.

Just assuming, there will be a EQ pack and it will be the same price, as the compressors pack (ridiculous 319 USD excl. VAT for 5 plugins). Then you pay almost 1k Euros for 13 plugins, that you can use in ONE console and not on every channel?

Of course nobody already knows, how the wing will sound. But just in case, it will sound good and has all that capabilities, I think A&H will have a bad time, selling the SQ, with their philosophy.. I don’t think, the 96k feature will do such a big gap for anyone. There are so much perfectly good studio records, which were recorded in 48kHz. It’s more about the preamps/converters and processing overall, than it is about 48 or 96kHz (Latency is another thing, but the Wing also should do a good job, regarding latency)

Don’t get me wrong, I hate the X/M32 (sold my m32 for a SQ) and love my SQ, the sound with the DX’s and the workflow I have on it (e.g. the workflow, that I have on EVERY A&H desk, thank you for that). I always prefer A&H over Midas, but I think A&H should get back to reality and think again about their pricing and philosophy about the plugins, they sell and react to the competitors..

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Also, I forgot to add in my comment above, would it be possible to have the selected channel in the MixApp follow the channel that is selected physically on the desk?

Thanks again!

This already works.
You have to activate this on the settings in the mixpad app.
so I have three screens
iPad for Gate
Macbook for Compressor
SQ5 for PEQ
As soon as I press the select button of any channel I am able to see everything of that channel directly on it’s specific screen

Since that has been added, I don’t even need the mixer follows surface option on the SQ, because I see everything on the three screens
You could also add another iPad or macbook to see the Meters or anything like that.

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I used a hub which didn’t change anything..
But I deleted my apogee maestro, which I installed for my apogee one and closed the macs Fan control, which I am running on my Mac, because I think it gets very hot..
the problem isn’t there anymore or at least not as often as it was before, i‘ll Keep u updated, thank you for your help, I appreciate it!

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Is there a way to use panning in daw control? (Logic)?
With a sq5!

And can you use it in a way, so your
Desk shows up the names of the channels in logic?
Because when working in banks of 16, in a 120 channel project it’s not always clear, where you are at the moment..

Already set up my desk to control the faders, mutes, solos
But found no way with naming and panning..
I hope there’s a solution!

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with a 2015 MacBook Air it works flawless, what the hell?

Is there any way I can work this out?

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well, that is cool! is there no AD/DA convertion or needs the signal to be converted to analog at that point?
So is the insert really analog or is the signal at the point of the insert already a digital signal?
And is there a possibility to record the signal after the insert then?

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+1000
So irritating when you select something on the touch screen and want to fine adjust With the rotaries what you did with your fingers, nur the Rotaries just do something completely different.
Always messing me up..

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Yeah, but if you would read what i wrote…
I own a SQ-5 which doesn’t have soft ROTARIES..or am I blind and just can’t find those on my SQ-5!
that’s exactly the problem that i have..

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Well, I think you don’t get the idea, that I have.

Tapping the tap delay works just perfectly fine, and after that I can adjust the decay time of the reverb to the tapped time.
but I would like to have a soft button, where I can tap the milliseconds of the decay time of the reverb, because of the lack of soft rotaries.

In my SQ i have to tap, then go to the fx section, go to the reverb and then adjust the decay time, which I have to do always, when a band played a fast rock song and then suddenly changes to a slow ballad of course.
That kind of working with the FX is not really convenient, because I know it better from my m32..

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Well, that’s exactly what I don’t have on my SQ5 😀
I think this feature would be so easy to implement..no big deal.
Or a feature, to use the global tap tempo also for your decay, you know what I mean?

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Thank you for all of your replies!

But finally, did you have time to test the AR vs. the DX? and if so, what do you think about the difference?

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