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  • #92901
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    Mike C
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    In the big picture of things if you can’t create a good solid live mix with an out of the box Qu32 and it’s four built in FX processors the problem is not with the hardware.

    #92889
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    Looking at the blockdiagram it sure looks like I could put an fx on a group and then run as many channels through that group as I wanted to get the fx on all of them. You mentioned that for SQ but the Qu block diagram looks like it could do it too unless there are some restrictions in the fine print that I missed when I read the manual.

    Do not put the FX on a group, just bring up the FX sends to the level of FX you want
    on the channels you want the FX on. You can still assign those channels to a group
    for over all level control, group compression and EQ.
    You have four different FX processor slots that can be loaded with various effect types
    in the library in any combination you want.

    #92883
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    As was stated much earlier the QU16 can have four effects processors. It comes with two effects slots pre patched, to use the other two you need to assign them to a mix and a channel to return them on, more less like patching an effect unit into an analog board.
    To patch the effects units you need to select the back panel view to input output routing options.

    With a QU32 you can have four total effects processors that are pre assigned. What ever the settings are per processor are what all the channels get short of the actual mix level. The mix level is determined the the FX send level when you go into an FX layer mode and the channel faders
    all become basically what was the aux level knob on an analog board. Same as selecting a mix layer and bringing up a channel or channels in a stage monitor.

    Effects such as reverb and delay are rarely inserted directly into a channel, they would be operating in series with the channel strip then, running effects through a mix/aux to a from a channel they operate in parallel with the channels who effects mix is brought up.

    Dynamic effects such as gates and compressors are normally inserted into a channel or into a buss. They are already “inserted” all you need to do is turn them on in the channel or in the mix output processing menu.

    A work of caution, do not turn up an effects own effect mix level, actually turn off the routing assignment to be safe.

    The effects are routed just like you would do with an analog board, aux out on the board to the effects input, effects output sent to a stereo return or unused mixer input channel.
    You bring up the master aux send level and then on the channels that you want to add some of that effect to you bring up the aux send on that channel.

    Just make sure you mute the effects returns in between songs, nothing screams amateur hour more than listening to someone talk with there voice still layered in effects.

    #92814
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    The manual I pulled up says it only has 24 preamps so how could a mike be on 25?

    Using a stage box!!!!

    Or a mic input assigned to multiple channels.

    #92775
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    What model SQ do you have, the SQ6 and SQ7 have assignable soft knobs.

    Also what not real elegant but it would be workable, use the headphone out, take a TRS breakout cable that goes into two TS mono connections or wire it to unbalanced XLR into
    your studio monitors.
    How far are your monitors from the mixer?
    I’m assuming your monitors are powered.

    #92774
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    Our video guy wants to be able to adjust his own mix so usb would not work for us.
    Actually we do the adjusting for him on the Qu at sound check, and occasional tweaks if needed later, and then send the mix to him as OBS does not appear to handle multiple channels like he wants.

    You can assign any QU mix out to any track or tracks on the USB output that would not change how the mix is tweaked on the mixer.
    OBS will only see and process tracks 1 & 2 so that is where you assign the mix you want to send to OBS.

    In his original post he said the OBS was set to the QU16 but he was not getting any audio. That tells me the first thing to check is the input assignment on USB tracks 1 & 2.
    Not that it probably makes any difference but I also unassign all the other tracks inputs.

    #92771
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    Just about two weeks I did a live stream audio production using that exact setup!
    QU16 USB out into a MacBook running OBS.

    OBS will only see or care about channels/tracks one and two on the multitrack USB feed.
    In the QU IO set up menu go to the USB menu and select the mix source on tracks one and two that you want to send to OBS.

    In OBS select the QU16 as the audio input source, on theirs it popped right up on the OBS audio input choices.

    #92759
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    I looked up the AB200 as well and had thought about the same work around as well.

    Or get one of these and a small aluminum project box.
    momentary push button

    #92754
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    In that case it is input, setting up fader assignments in channel input patching.

    If your in the set up/networt menu then it would be internet protocol.

    #92753
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    It sounds like you too many helpful hands that lack the knowlege of interfacing sound equipment.
    Your noise a static issues on the live stream and on the main system most likly is from not using isolation transformers between the video system and the mixer outputs.

    What kind of audio inotus are you going into for the video equipment, If it’s an 1/8 inch stere mic input those are not directly able to connect to a line level XLR output.
    You can use the mixers rear USB output to send audio into a computer, it another topic on setting that though.

    Yes two discrete isloated mixers that are fed from a spitter system, one for the main mix and another
    in an separate room for the video mix is the full blown way to do it though few have the resources to do it.

    With the mixer you have you can effictively create a mix for live steaming, pick an unused mix, set it to POST FADE, start
    off with all the channel mix sends for that mix all set to unity, on the spoken word input channels bump those up higer.

    As Mark said/suggested to allow for somewhat easy remote mixing for the live stream try the QU You App. That App will allow
    someone to adjust the mix balance and adjust the overall mix output processing. Using that app they can not make changes that
    would affect anything on the main mix. The person will need a way to monitor the audio on that mix.
    I have set up a couple system doing that very thing.

    All that said I think you are at the point of needing to bring a qualified person to help you get your system set up and straighten out.

    #92725
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    Could you post or link to an audio clip of just the snare drum with the distortion.

    By the way the playing in the video you posted was definitely not heavy handed drumming by any means.

    #92707
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    So basically, the SQ5 will do everything our QU32 will do, only with a smaller footprint and a need to understand how to configure and manage layers.

    …with the added Dante compatibility.

    Yes it will and a lot more.

    Dante requires an interface card to be installed in the card slot.

    #92667
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    Like Mark said any fader on a SQ can be set to be any input channel, output mix, DCA, FX Send, ect. You can even have important channels assigned to the same position in each layer so they are always available.

    On the QU32 you have one fully custom layer (the middle layer, push both layer buttons at the same time) that you can set the faders to be any thing you what them to be using the set up menu.

    If you use the QU Pad app with in the app you can set three custom layers.

    #92632
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    On the output of the mixer swap the cables around that are feeding to you video system as in taking the cable plugged into the the right output and plug it into the left, take the left and plug it into the right.

    Use the system a while and see if the problem moved with the cable swap, if the right channel of the video system that is now plugged into the mixers left output still has
    the problem the issue is in the cabling or the video system.

    If the problem shows up on now the left channel of the video system that is connected to the mixers right channel output the problem points back to the mixer.

    What are the audio connections to the video system inputs?

    #92625
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    I do *NOT work excessively loud shows. Nor would I attend one.
    I had to go to a phish concert once (wifey insisted) but I had ear plugs AND ear muffs.
    It was still loud but back then it was just tolerable. We left at halftime anyway.

    I should also mention that I do a lot of spoken word corporate events that requires a completely different skill set.

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