[Mike CParticipant]

But UPwards compression is the type we need for the problem we have.

WOW….you have given up on that yet! You seem to have forgotten EVERYONE who told that would not fix your problem when you first posted that a year or so ago.

Let me see………In running live sound when packing up at the end of night I have
never thought if only I have had an upwards compressor the event would have been successful.

Maybe the system deployment and operators are your issue….we all told the first time this topic came up as well.

[Mike CParticipant]

Most standard stereo recording or live streaming software only pick off channels/tracks 1 & 2 from the USB B multitrack output.

Do you just want to send the what the main LR mix is to the live stream or did you want to create a separate mix for the live stream.

Using a separate mix would allow for some separate mix balance adjustments to the live stream feed and you can apply EQ and compression just for the live stream feed, you will want to use some moderate compression on the live stream feed upwards to a 5 to 1 ratio and don’t go overboard on the low end on the live stream audio.
Set the mix for post fade and to start with make it post all.

You can select the audio sources sent to the USB B tracks in the IO set up menu. Select track 1 and use the input knob to scroll through the selections, pick either L R or the mix if your building a separate live stream audio mix.

[Mike CParticipant]

The recording with Shure Pad and direct to QU were nasty!

Do you get the same thing on any input channel?
Have you had a chance to check the phantom power voltage
at the mic XLR connector and or try an external phantom
power supply?

[Mike CParticipant]

Did I misread your first post?
I took as saying the Qu32 was the limiting factor and not quite up to the job.

You most certainly misread that post!!!

I said the problem is NOT in the hardware…and that was implying that the operator in that case is the problem.

I would expect the Qu could do most corporate jobs, but I have been to some where you would need a lot more because they were essentially broadway show quality events put on to boost morale of the salesmen.

And they do..

The corporate events that are on the scale of a broadway show with two weeks of set up and rehersal and paying a couple million dollars or so for production will probably have something other than a QU at FOH.

[Mike CParticipant]

Sorry but I do not get the idea as stated.
Please learn me about that.

Let me try it another way……any QU mixer that has the needed inputs & outputs to accomodate the needs for said event the hardware will not be limiting factor to the
success of said event, that falls back on the person operating the mixer and we have all heard turd audio coming out of mixers for more expensive and feature loaded than a QU.

Sure as you go the mixer ladder each model offers more and more IO, processing, plug ins and routing options that would/may allow you to put an extra “sheen” on the overall mix or to simply accomodate larger input counts and or more complex output routing.
If more IO is needed your going to the model that can offer it.

If the Qu32 is so inferior how could there be a Qu16?

Who ever said the QU32 was inferior!!!

Spoken word especially corporate events could certainly use some other functions but that was not in the charter of designing the Qu

Trust me the QU can do that job very well, and even more so with the just mentioned auto mix function that was added with the Chrome firmware about five years ago.

[Mike CParticipant]

I would modify that to say large rock style event type live mixes.

Any type of live event, large, small, any music genre, spoken word, corporate presentation, you get the idea.

[Mike CParticipant]

This was a ‘Rookie QU-16 Questions …’ thread and it seems some are giving advice for the QU 24 or 32 units which have the 4 dedicated FX busses. That confuses the issues.

I’ll take some of the blame for turning this thread into an general QU effects thread.

Marks right about all four of the QU16 effects returns already assigned and just needed the two additional effects mix sends patched if you need to use the two additional effects processors.
With my QU16 I’ve only needed all four effects a few times!

In the big picture of things if you can’t create a good solid live mix with an out of the box Qu32 and it’s four built in FX processors the problem is not with the hardware.

I’ll modify that comment to say any QU series mixer.

[Mike CParticipant]

In the big picture of things if you can’t create a good solid live mix with an out of the box Qu32 and it’s four built in FX processors the problem is not with the hardware.

[Mike CParticipant]

Looking at the blockdiagram it sure looks like I could put an fx on a group and then run as many channels through that group as I wanted to get the fx on all of them. You mentioned that for SQ but the Qu block diagram looks like it could do it too unless there are some restrictions in the fine print that I missed when I read the manual.

Do not put the FX on a group, just bring up the FX sends to the level of FX you want
on the channels you want the FX on. You can still assign those channels to a group
for over all level control, group compression and EQ.
You have four different FX processor slots that can be loaded with various effect types
in the library in any combination you want.

[Mike CParticipant]

As was stated much earlier the QU16 can have four effects processors. It comes with two effects slots pre patched, to use the other two you need to assign them to a mix and a channel to return them on, more less like patching an effect unit into an analog board.
To patch the effects units you need to select the back panel view to input output routing options.

With a QU32 you can have four total effects processors that are pre assigned. What ever the settings are per processor are what all the channels get short of the actual mix level. The mix level is determined the the FX send level when you go into an FX layer mode and the channel faders
all become basically what was the aux level knob on an analog board. Same as selecting a mix layer and bringing up a channel or channels in a stage monitor.

Effects such as reverb and delay are rarely inserted directly into a channel, they would be operating in series with the channel strip then, running effects through a mix/aux to a from a channel they operate in parallel with the channels who effects mix is brought up.

Dynamic effects such as gates and compressors are normally inserted into a channel or into a buss. They are already “inserted” all you need to do is turn them on in the channel or in the mix output processing menu.

A work of caution, do not turn up an effects own effect mix level, actually turn off the routing assignment to be safe.

The effects are routed just like you would do with an analog board, aux out on the board to the effects input, effects output sent to a stereo return or unused mixer input channel.
You bring up the master aux send level and then on the channels that you want to add some of that effect to you bring up the aux send on that channel.

Just make sure you mute the effects returns in between songs, nothing screams amateur hour more than listening to someone talk with there voice still layered in effects.

[Mike CParticipant]

The manual I pulled up says it only has 24 preamps so how could a mike be on 25?

Using a stage box!!!!

Or a mic input assigned to multiple channels.

[Mike CParticipant]

What model SQ do you have, the SQ6 and SQ7 have assignable soft knobs.

Also what not real elegant but it would be workable, use the headphone out, take a TRS breakout cable that goes into two TS mono connections or wire it to unbalanced XLR into
your studio monitors.
How far are your monitors from the mixer?
I’m assuming your monitors are powered.

[Mike CParticipant]

Our video guy wants to be able to adjust his own mix so usb would not work for us.
Actually we do the adjusting for him on the Qu at sound check, and occasional tweaks if needed later, and then send the mix to him as OBS does not appear to handle multiple channels like he wants.

You can assign any QU mix out to any track or tracks on the USB output that would not change how the mix is tweaked on the mixer.
OBS will only see and process tracks 1 & 2 so that is where you assign the mix you want to send to OBS.

In his original post he said the OBS was set to the QU16 but he was not getting any audio. That tells me the first thing to check is the input assignment on USB tracks 1 & 2.
Not that it probably makes any difference but I also unassign all the other tracks inputs.

[Mike CParticipant]

Just about two weeks I did a live stream audio production using that exact setup!
QU16 USB out into a MacBook running OBS.

OBS will only see or care about channels/tracks one and two on the multitrack USB feed.
In the QU IO set up menu go to the USB menu and select the mix source on tracks one and two that you want to send to OBS.

In OBS select the QU16 as the audio input source, on theirs it popped right up on the OBS audio input choices.

[Mike CParticipant]

I looked up the AB200 as well and had thought about the same work around as well.

Or get one of these and a small aluminum project box.
momentary push button

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