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Dante Question

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2018/03/16 at 4:22 am #69655

K08
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We have a C3500 and CDM48 on the way and have also ordered a dante card so we can use our current Aviom System fed by Dante. If the Dante card is installed in the surface this will give us the direct outs to send to Aviom but will we also get access to the stage rack sockets on the Dante network or do we need a second Dante card for the stage rack?

2018/03/16 at 2:48 pm #69661

Ben A&H
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@kevanl13

An M-DANTE in the Surface will have access to all system inputs and outputs.

Hope that helps,
Ben

2018/03/16 at 3:03 pm #69662

K08
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Thank you Ben. Would this also work if the M-Dante card was in the stage rack? Just want to think through all options and possibilities for installation.

2018/03/17 at 1:09 pm #69686

ddff_lv
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Yes, the card can be either in the surface or mixrack- you get every possible signal in both.

2018/03/19 at 4:45 am #69718

K08
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Great thanks so much.

2018/03/19 at 11:35 am #69725

Wolfgang
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I also put the Dante card into the DM32 mixrack.
from the “Primary” output I go to a Ubiquiti POE network switch and from there to one of the two network ports of the DM32.

so I can send the signals to a recording computer in the mixrack and to a laptop on the FOH mixer (via the ACE connection and the network sockets on the console). This allows me to make a backup recording at FOH when the show is very important and well paid 😉
I also use the switch to feed the WLAN antenna via POE and can integrate additional control computers, Audio-Technica 5000 radio receivers and loudspeaker controllers into the network if required.

that works great and so far very reliable.

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2018/03/19 at 12:49 pm #69732

SteffenR
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Wolfgang, why Ubiquity and wich?

2018/03/19 at 8:11 pm #69751

BILDIC
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Hi Wolfgang

You can do it easier – with bridging network

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2018/03/19 at 9:21 pm #69753

Wolfgang
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Hi Steffen, I use a Ubiquiti US-8 60W in the mixrack.
it can be managed via browser, so that I can easily switch off the access point (Ubiquiti AP AC LR) remotely when I no longer need it.
for an IP8 the POE power supply of the US8 60W is a bit too weak, here I use the version US-8 150W

@bildic:
I’m not doing anything else, because I’m routing the Dante signal to the Network port of the mixrack. I’ll just add another switch in between to have more options

2018/03/19 at 11:10 pm #69764

RS
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60W is not too weak to run one IP8.
I use a Zyxel 70W and run 2 IP8s and two other “af” standard devices on it.

2018/03/20 at 12:01 am #69765

Wolfgang
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believe me, IP8 is definitely not running on the US-8 60W, I tried that several times.
that’s why i bought the version US-8 150W, so it works fine.
but I only have an IP8 to test it.

2018/03/20 at 1:34 pm #69770

RS
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Just double checked.
The US-8 is not PoE+ 802.3at compliant. So you are correct. No IP8s on this one.
PoE+ needs 30W max per port, so I was mislead by the 60W. US-8 is PoE 802.3af compliant only (15W per port).

peace out

2018/03/20 at 2:12 pm #69771

SteffenR
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still the question, why Ubiquity?
Any advantages? Just a matter of taste?

HP, D-Link, TP-Link and Netgear should do it as well, or?

2018/03/20 at 6:45 pm #69775

BILDIC
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I use only one switch Aruba 2930 on FOH ( near DM32 bridge dante card to network1 and AP Aruba305 to network2 for wifi and redundancy).

When i connect IP8 to port POE (default), IP8 said its under powered. When i set port to 30W – answer was same. When i set to 35W, IP8 start, work fine (from statistics: Pwr reserved 30W, Pwr Draw 4,1W, Priority High).

I Use for FOH 1xCAT5e from DM32 to switch with 2x IP8 and 6x dante devices.

2018/03/20 at 9:16 pm #69776

Jay
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Steffen,

If I were to rank them:
– Ubiquity, Cisco, HP
– Netgear, D-Link, Cisco(Linksys/Small business)
– TP-Link

I can’t speak for the Ub switches, but the AP’s are a step above on reliability, scale and management. I have the Pro’s deployed across multiple office floors for the company I work with and they hands-down beat Cisco and others I have worked with.
– Management is very much enterprise-level that you don’t configure AP’s – you build profiles and assign AP’s to profiles.
– The latest firmware does a real-time WiFi survey of other AP’s and frequency congestion.
– Designed to handle congested areas.
– POE-powered (no separate power cord).
– Switch my show systems from Engenius to Ubiquity in the next couple months.

Jay
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