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  • #111181
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    Just discussing this with a producer I’m working with. Strange that the SQ has an assignable AES output but no way, in native configuration, to return a digital signal, neither 2-track nor 8-track, to the board.

    Yes, Dante will solve that problem, and that is what we did, but it is an expensive, equipment intensive (even at its smallest scale) and the Dante system has a (fairly) steep learning curve. And, AFAIK, good luck finding a Dante card for the SQ at this time. 🙁

    D.

    #110506
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    I have one. Sometimes I need the USB slot. Also, kind of a shitty lamp.

    D.

    #110248
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    Thanks for the link. So PC is not really to prevent output clipping so much as it is to “shape” the sound of the program? For a long time, I have been using a compressor on the 2-mix bus to prevent clipping, “tickling” the compressor maybe -3dB with a threshold of -2 or so to protect against, let’s say, a loud tympani strike, or the like. 4:1, quick release. But a friend and renown engineer (ex of Abbey Road) says he uses PC on all his broadcasts.

    But if I run both the wet and the dry at 100%, and set my levels so the “dry” does not clip, what am I gaining (pun intended). It seems that if I have a mix going, and raise the inputs, I clip the outputs as would be expected.

    Just trying to wrap my head around what I might expect to achieve with PC.

    Maybe back to a simple brick wall limiter to preven broadcast clipping?

    D.

    #109871
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    So, for whatever this is worth, I’ve been testing the Samsung 1GB T5 mini-SSD as multitrack media on my SQ6. Yesterday, I fed source (music) to 32 inputs of my SQ and recorded to the Samsung drive, 24/48, for five hours. I never saw any indication of USB overload nor, upon listening today in Reaper, hear any indication of recording error on any track.

    I am pretty convinced that this drive works as it should on the SQ and for now, will have no hesitancy to use it as, at least, a multi-track backup for my JoeCo. Is it as reliable as Reaper in Dante on a MBP? Seems likely.

    I still wish that it picked up the track names but, oh well. Reaper does that as normal.

    D.

    #109761
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    I just looked at the manual. It seems that I read that the SQ-Drive can record 32-tacks at 96k and 64-tracks at 48k.

    I just looked at the I/O screen on my mixer and in the USB out page, channels 17-30 were grey’d out is if patched but nothing seems to have been actually assigned to those outputs. I just assigned a random channel to each output and then un-assigned the same patch. Now those channels are no longer grey’d out and I suspect, will not record empty tracks onto the drive plugged into the top USA port (SQ-Drive) on the desk.

    Learning more each day I work with my SQ.

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    #109759
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    Why then did I show 30 “TRKS” on my drive with only the ones assigned in the I/O USB screen containing actual audio files? I thought the SQ-Drive could record 64 TRKS at 48k. Seems like if I had assigned mics to 30 . . .

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    #109750
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    Today, I recorded from my SQ6 in anger for the first time. 16 track multi-rack orchestral performance. I recorded to a bus-powered Samsung SSD (MU-PA1T0B 1GB) for the first half and switched out to an externally powered OWC spinning drive (On-The-Go) at intermission.

    Both drives seemed to have captured all the files with no errors. I was a bit disappointed that the labeling of the tracks on the drive was simple TRK01.WAV, TRK05.WAV etc, not named like the tracks were in the record screen and on the front of the desk. Renaming those takes more time after they are imported into a DAW.

    More puzzling was that the drives recorded 30 tracks, 14 of them with no files assigned, completely black, as expected. But why did it record the extra blank tracks? The sample rate of the recording was 48k so 32 tracks showed as available in the Multi-track screen but only 16 were assigned via the USB screen in the I/O window. I am guessing this was a mis-set by me but I’d be happy for someone to tell me what I did wrong.

    Anyway, it seems that these two media work, at least in any case, on this day.

    I had two other recorders working, just in case, so I am not at full-level trust just yet (and I will ALWAYS record a full backup. Always.)

    D.

    #109444
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    All I can think of is to mic your toms separately and then “underhead” your cymbals with cardioids, that might help.

    D.

    #109178
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    I am wrong to consider the needs of an external spinning drive for a separate power supply would relate to the “spinning”? Nothing moving in the thumb drive.

    Just asking; sincerely curious.

    D.

    #109166
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    Ah, Keith. That is an awesome explanation.

    And yes, I did figure out the whys and wherefore of maximum recording times, AFTER I CAREFULLY read the manual. I do tend to type before I read but you also distilled that to a very understandable form. I think that the thumb drive I have may well work. I saw only the faintest “blip” of green while recording 18-tracks at 96k. I will max it out to 32-tracks at 96k just to test the theory today.

    Thanks for the help.

    D.

    #109155
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    I attached a USB 1TB spinning drive to the SQ and it seems to be happily recording 18 tracks at 48k. My San Disc Extreme Pro 3.1 thumb seemed to show the same no-load recording ability as the spinning drive.

    I see in the manual that for a “stereo recording”, there is a 2-hour limit? For the 18-track recording, I am showing over four hours at 96k and over 8 hours at 48k. Is this an improvement over what I see in the manual or just different than making a stereo recording?

    This is my first experience recording from my friend’s panel. I always use a dedicated hardware recorder, a JoeCo BBR-64 Dante, when I work so I am not at all familiar with the ins and outs of SQ-USB.

    D.

    #109147
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    Hi Keith and thanks.

    I looked at that list and there are, it seems, quite a few thumb-drives listed as being okay for multi-track recording. I am confused about what make one such drive acceptable even as you seem to imply that they are not appropriate.

    Thanks for further information.

    Best,

    Doug

    #109136
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    I have a SanDisk Extreme Pro USB 3.1 256GB that I could give him if that is a known good drive.

    Thanks again.

    D.

    #108319
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    Gotta say. I was hoping this trap would have been fixed by now.

    It seems like a simple enough request but I am guessing that there is some big and high roadblock to making this feature a reality. Sad.

    D.

    #107221
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    Almost a year gone by. Is there any news that a DT32 Dante for Prime modules might be on the drawing board?

    D.

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