[LesWilsonParticipant]

You can enable CUSTOM LAYER ONLY for the BASIC and/or STANDARD users. Go to HOME -> USER -> BASIC -> Fn

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Is this how Allen & Heath intended to support multiple users or am I missing something? I mean what’s the point in having a password if everyone shares the same one?

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I like the second one as it seems a little longer so as to provide clearance for the lamp socket above. Not a fan of that design at all.

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Thanks Mike C. I think they both rotate each end. This unit is in a school and multiple people may be at the console and moving about … so no one person with a headset just standing there. There’s lights, graphics, video switcher and cameras to run!

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Thanks @nzdave. That item number doesn’t work but after a few creative searches, “XLR right angle” came up with a couple. I don’t know why my searching here didn’t find that thread. Anyway, here’s two item numbers to two different designs.
373980982037

184543194042

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@SteffenR, you had me pricing an SQ 6 and finding a sword to fall on. Thanks @KeithjA&H That is good news and does the trick I think.

One followup question though, is the Setup>I/O Patch saved in scenes or is it global?

TIA
Les

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Got it. Thanks. Yes, that stand had all kinds of angles to deal with. The near side followed the GL2800 slope but the far side rested on the unsloped table. The hooked top of the QU rests on a 1″ dowel which makes it a snap to grab the bottom and tilt the QU up for access to the channels underneath (many of which have gone bad … LOL). It works really well.

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We use the 8 groups of the GL to feed a downstream mixer for recording and streaming. An example of how handy this is when recording a live event in a two track camera, we separate all the musical channels from the vocals and remix in post. Not a big deal that 4 groups on the QU can’t substitute. It’s just been that way for 20 years. LOL.

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Thanks again Mike. I’ve been using my own personal QU-16 at work alongside a degrading GL2800 for two years now. We need it once a year for a musical production and wire all our all our wireless into it. It’s great. We use its 4 mono outputs to send four monitor mixes to the GL. The QU-16 LR mix is sent to the GL so we free up a net of 10 GL channels.

Initially I was looking at combining a QU-32 with the QU-16 to replace the 48 channel GL. You helped me better understand how things done in the analog world are done differently in the digital world. At this point I’ve found no synergy between QU-32 and QU-16. So I am looking at all the things we do in our analog configuration and see how they would be implemented on a QU-32. It’s not a plug and play.

At the moment, I believe it could work. I think the only loss of function is the 8 mono group outputs of the GL dropping to 4 on the QU-32. And as per this thread, we’re not making use of the AR2412 outputs. Otherwise I’m using every bit of the QU-32 save the two stereo matrix outputs.

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Thanks Mike. I bought the QU16 personally 2 years ago because we were losing GL channels and the venue owner only wanted to replace it with an analog Soundcraft 48 channel desk. We have one event each year (Spring Musical), where we needed the capabilities of a digital board to handle all our wireless vocals. It is upstream of the GL. So I use the QU-16 just for that event and said no to the Soundcraft after I read about a technique for cleaning the connectors to bring bad channels back. That worked but only lasted a year. Now that we’re past the pandemic, the discussion about replacing the GL has resumed but a QU-32/ME configuration is in the mix.

The GL desk is used by four different groups. We leverage the 48 channels to partition the desk so each group has dedicated channels only they use while other channels are shared. This is yet another analog way of doing things that gets to be rethought in digital. The QU Scenes seem like a good way of segregating EQs, patches etc. But even still, the house has 40 mic inputs from the stage so with a QU-32, 12 would become unused (the QU-16 uses 4 inputs for monitor mixes). I think we can make it work. But it’s good to know how the stagebox handles that problem. Sounds handy. I have to get my head around it. Problem solved. Thanks again.

In ears ar another problem for another time. The analog AVIOMs don’t transition and two mixers will be a headache as far as personal monitors. UGH.

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We are taking a look at replacing the 48 channel GL2800 due to age. Mostly, a dozen channels are used at one time but a couple times a year an event will need nearly 40. There’s lots of nice things about a digital board we’ve experienced in using a QU-16 as a submixer. It’s been a luxury to have more than 48 channels wired up on a 48 channel mixer. We’ll have to get used to re-wiring I think.

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Thanks Mike. The scenario is we have 40 inputs from stage and 17 wireless plus the usual cd, iPhone FX return stereo inputs. Not all are used simultaneously so with dual jacks the various users of the desk are not requiring it for what the want to use. Everything is plugged in. Users setup the stage and configure the desk. I don’t think we can take that approach with a 48 channel digital desk. It’s basically a solution in the analog ecosystem that has to be rethought in digital.

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Thanks All. Yah, I looked at the diagram first thing and saw exactly what you posted DoctorG: No physical mechanism. We’re looking at replacing the GL with a QU-32 and this dual connection is a factor so I wanted to be thorough about there being a firmware capability. Not optimistic but thorough. I’ve come to realize the digital and analog ecosystems are entirely different and one has to rethink all the surrounding bits (FX, in-ears, recording, distribution …).

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I think I must have been on the wrong layer as you suggest. When I made sure I was on the input layer, none of my assignments showed up. After making them, things worked as they should. Thank you.

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I’ll be on site today and double check those. I am pretty sure the input layer was selected as it’s all I use.

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