[lawbass61Participant]

Jeff, just out of curiosity would this tester find a problem with the CAT5e cables we need to be using?

https://pro-audio-warehouse.com/pal-1543.html

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

Oh, Jeff, the answer to your question is yes. The system was very sluggish. Even when the connection was not lost, I noted several instances during the evening when the T112 “froze”. Specifically, I noted that the meters would occasionally stop updating constantly and the meters would be frozen in place for 2-3 seconds. It was a long night.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

Ok, in follow up since I was the OP, thought I would let you all know what I learned. We switched the strobe’s power to a completely different room to ensure it was as far away as possible. However, even though the strobe did not kick off the system again, I started having problems with losing connection throughout the whole show.
I therefore believe that the cable is the culprit, not the lights. I must say it was a long weekend constantly rebooting the system. The major slow part was that once it booted, it took forever to get the keyboard screen to come up to enter the logon password for the system. I am talking 30 to 45 seconds after touching the touchscreen to have the keyboard pop up. I am going to send the event log to A & H this week to see if there is anything else going on.

I have been using some cable not on the approved list CAT5e cable. I am therefore going to bite the bullet and buy something better. I do have two questions before doing so. First, I cannot seem to find a retailer that sells either of the two cables on the approved list here in the US. Can anyone direct me to a retailer who carries either of those? Second, is there any update to the approved list since A & H has had this product out for a longer period of time. It sure would be nice to have a wider variety of cables that we can choose from. Thanks

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

First, thanks to A & H for a fantastic product, and for listening. I know we all get frustrated because it is such a great product, and we always want “more”–if only it would/could……
I will point out that this product has only been out a short time in reality, and it has already had at least 3 firmware updates that have included improvements/revisions that many of us have asked for. As someone who has been clamoring for additional scene control, as I am a theater person, I understand that is near and dear to me (still anxiously awaiting) but I also understand that it is not to others. However, the most recent firmware update did fix some things and gave us some cool new things. I bet the next one does as well. Therefore thanks again A & H,….but do please keep the updates/improvements coming….we are an impatient bunch of engineers in an ever changing environment.

Jon

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

Just got the ipad last weekend, and was in the middle of a show so I couldn’t update to 1.8 and try it. Show ended last night, and spent the evening doing the update and installing the app. Once I got the router configured (RRRRRR), it fired right up. However, just as some others said, it would start then stall saying out of memory. A little quick research here, learning about stopping other services, did so and bang, it worked like a charm. I played with it for about two hours switching views/switching mixes, etc and it seems to work fine. I am looking forward to trying it out in a live setting soon. New show starts next weekend so I will report back afterward.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

I have 3: 300 feet (actually a pair run together for redundancy/backup), 50 feet and 10 feet. The 50′ is the one that came with the system during the summer rebate program. The 300′ is Amphenol, and the 10′ is just a standard garden variety Cat5e from some box store. I typically use the 300′ footer, but sometimes on small gigs where the idr stays with me at FOH the smaller ones are more convenient.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

Really like it.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

I do mostly theatre work, and mine is basically the same.
Scene 1 is called “setup”, it stores all set-up, monitor settings, EQ, etc. Everything is muted here.
Scene 2 is what I call “Preshow”-its where I do pre-show mic check, line check, etc. Everything is started muted here so when the system is started, I never get any unexpected issues. In that Pre-Show scene, everything is set basically where I plan to start the show, so I have no surprises. For instance, this is where all the mic-pres are set, then scene safed, so if a performer is overly loud/soft that particular night, I can quickly adjust it and know its good for the rest of the show.

Scene 3 is always “Music only” where once we are ready to open the house, pre-show music is played.

Scene 4 is always “Orchestra only” once we are ready to start the show. The pre-show music is always muted here, and stays that way until Intermission Scene.

Scenes 5-whatever are scenes with individual fader movements, any special effects that need to come on, etc. If a performer changes character name, each scene will reflect the character name in that particular scene.

Intermission Scene where everything is muted except piped music.

End of show” scene is post show piped music, with all all inputs off so that if I forget to recall Scene 2, I still get no unexpected surprises.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

So it sounds like no one can think of any great reason to further enrich Steve Jobs, a $300 small laptop loaded with Editor seems like a smarter investment. Touchscreen would be nice, but its not worth 800.00.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

I had a delightful conversation with Dave Lewty recently. He advises that A & H is aware of the needs of us “theater” folks, and that A&H is actively working on developing some changes to the iLive system that are theater work appropriate. If you look at the driver developments that have been made in the past, it is obvious that A & H is listening, its just time consuming to write, bug check, and then implement new updates. Anyone at A & H able to tell us where in the process we are to make the iLive more “theater” friendly? Thanks.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

I agree Ray, same thing has happened to me. I would at least like an “undo” so if I do it by accident I can fix it. But even better would be as you say a follow.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

If you want to, the easy way to do that is by creating a VCA group that is your L, R and Sub all together. Set L, R and sub where you want them, then ignore them the rest of the night, one fader (call it the mains VCA) handles all 3. Remember by default you always have 16 VCA’s available.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

What I am envisioning for scene EQ is that I would like to be able to write the show (which mics are on/off) etc a week or two before starting rehearsals. However, currently I can’t really do that, because the first thing I have to do upon loading into a new venue is to EQ the room/wedges, etc. If I do that, then I have to then go thru each scene that I have written and update the room or wedge EQ’s. This is tedious, and kind of defeats the purpose of pre-writing the show scene by scene into a show.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

The major thing I would like to see implemented in the scene change is the ability to simply “insert all” where for instance a change in room EQ or monitor EQ could be quickly and at one time pasted into all the other scenes.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

[lawbass61Participant]

The main issue for me still keeping the outboard processing is the need for crossover–no ability within iLive for setting type and depth of crossover. While as stated above we can simply use highpass/lowpass for sending basic signal flow to our mains, that will not ensure smooth crossover points and thus likely gaps or peaks around the crossover point. Hence a repeated request if possible, please add crossover to the outputs Allen Heath.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

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