I do mostly theatre work, and mine is basically the same.
Scene 1 is called “setup”, it stores all set-up, monitor settings, EQ, etc. Everything is muted here.
Scene 2 is what I call “Preshow”-its where I do pre-show mic check, line check, etc. Everything is started muted here so when the system is started, I never get any unexpected issues. In that Pre-Show scene, everything is set basically where I plan to start the show, so I have no surprises. For instance, this is where all the mic-pres are set, then scene safed, so if a performer is overly loud/soft that particular night, I can quickly adjust it and know its good for the rest of the show.

Scene 3 is always “Music only” where once we are ready to open the house, pre-show music is played.

Scene 4 is always “Orchestra only” once we are ready to start the show. The pre-show music is always muted here, and stays that way until Intermission Scene.

Scenes 5-whatever are scenes with individual fader movements, any special effects that need to come on, etc. If a performer changes character name, each scene will reflect the character name in that particular scene.

Intermission Scene where everything is muted except piped music.

End of show” scene is post show piped music, with all all inputs off so that if I forget to recall Scene 2, I still get no unexpected surprises.

Jonathan Wade
Suburban Legend Audio

my first 20 scenes are reserved for pl 6 functions
then i have a so called “reset” scene (flatten console strips are numbers again)as i work 90% with mic amp split (30 channels front,30 channels monitor)
maybe my console layout: layer 1 all inputs – foh, layer 3 all monitor channels, the layers in between i use for whatever. This is done like this for babysitting (engineers who dont know the console)
works fine.

i have 1 prepared scene wich is called moni only (mix sends of channels 31 to 60) eqs of those and so on. as soon i have a monitor situation ready to store i copy this one to my wanted number and hit “update scene”.kepps it slim. this i use only for “productions” i mean for bands i work often and have time to go further into their show.
and of course ,for this case, a front only,where everything wich is in the moni scene is excluded.

for little festivals (if there is time for soundcheck for more than one band)i make “store all” scenes for every band,then once the crowd is in and the front eq readjusted i put the master faders into scene safe mode.

and last but not least i have one scene, where everything is muted, only deejay channels are on (for aftershow deejay) and there i have a trick: two mono matrixes named left and right in the coulour of my my real masters-the “real masters” are hidden (not visible in any layer)with limiter on[] – i can go home and the deejay thinks he is running full power heheh

cheers
dave

allen&heath iLive-144 /idr 64 / idr 48 (i am convinced there is a yamaha conspiracy against the release of the dante )

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Originally posted by Bob Bickerton

Consequently I set up a generic show scene to control input channel faders and mutes (not including effects returns – which I wanted to retain live control over). I then copied this generic scene through the show and ‘updated’ it to reflect each different scene. (Which is where my request for a ‘scene parameter preference’ option would seem less clumsy.

Bob

https://www.bickerton.co.nz

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Hi Bob – “Scene parameter preference” Yeah this has been requested by many other (mainly theatre) users and is definitely required! I called it a “Scene save library” – call it what you like but we certainly need a more flexible scene save system! I’d like to see something like save buttons in addition to the existing “Save All” & “Update” – such as have a couple of Custom nameable Save buttons – User Save 1, User Save 2, All I/P Levels, 1-32 M&F, …. etc etc – with each of those buttons representing a custom save parameter library. Heres hoping.

Cheers

Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72

Yeah using “prefab” scenes works and thats what I do – but when you do shows with around 100 or so scenes it’s a lot of copy/pasting. Try copying one scene to 100 “prefab” locations – you will find even with multi select it’s not a quick process. Then if you want just the odd scene to save say just certain parameters you can do this manually – or have another “prefab -no2” scene which you would then need to find, then copy to the correct scene location, then update. With fast moving theatre rehearsals thats not fast enough to program.
I have also previously suggested a scene “preview” mode which would make theatre programming much easier – i.e the abilty to view a scene (virtual) and edit/save it without it being the active scene. Perhaps a “preview Flip” like the GEQ flip or even if this could be done in a special laptop Editor mode? The name “Editor” would make more sense then.
Don’t suggest connecting in offline mode as programming online (Surface) and offline (Editor) at the same time means you are working on two different show versions that can’t merge programmed changes.
I have a dream…

Cheers

Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72