[KeuleParticipant]

What do you try to accomplish?

For me it absolutly makes no sense to miss out the faders of the inputs, where you could manage your balance.

Also you have compressors on the inputs, in your group, you can paralellcompress, you could insert effects (even multipressors) at the groups or the busses (the mix) – what special and important thing do you need to accomplish?

[KeuleParticipant]

When you mix the different handeled duplicated input signals you risk phasing cause of microdelays. Sounds sometimes bit crazy… (but theres a good chance, that you won’t even recognize it)

If I want a “wet” aux, I would route it conventional on an fx-send, and the return into the aux mix.

If you want a special reverb and eq setting on the monitor, other than at the mainfront, I would split the signal (2 channel with the same input) one is routed to tha pa, one is routet to the monitor. If you need different reverbs on the monitor, and you want to spare a bus, you could insert the reverb into the channel for the monitor.

Everything as you need it.

Hope I could help.

Goodluck, and rock´n´roll

[KeuleParticipant]

I hate to say, but Thats pretty basic and was possible since the First A&H digital console and still is.

You can mix the fx into a bus (master or aux) with the level you like. Even with less on the master and much on an aux-bus. You just thend the fx-return to the aux-bus via mix-button or routing.

You can insert an effect at the aux bus

You can mirror an input on two channel, inserting and eq-ing one only for the fx bus, and one only for the master.

Have fun

[KeuleParticipant]

I made a comparison between gld and avantis. The preamps are extremly close in sound and phase (measured it), so you mostly compared the 48 to 96 –
There is a very small difference, wich wasnˋt recogniced by 3 of 5 technicians.
But still, there are quit some improvements of signalreproducability when going thruw several ad da converters.

Of course its possible to make an a-b comperrison. You would need a summarizer (balanced and isolated) and have to make shure, your filters on both “controllers” are exactly the same, to enshure you only listen to the 48k ad da converters. Easy trick to make that shure: flatten everything …. flat is always the “same”

But: any aditional correction as allpassfilters for phase correction or limitersettings cant be reproduced easily on the avantis, cause its a mixer, not a system controller!

I would stay with Chris93:

Qoute: Using the manufacturers system controller very much is the proper way to do it.

[KeuleParticipant]

Way to complicated…

You make a LR ,or setup whatever you like.
You route your LR onto 2 Matrix, a stereo in front, and a stereo or just a mono for the delay.
You add the EQ for the „system management“ and the delay only to the matrix.
Notmaly 4 filters and missing allpass filters make that more and improvised emergancy solution, but it works wuit far.
Not possible is a original snd sensefull limiting treshhold.

You habe still the eq on LR free for cosmetic on the whole system, if necesarry.
You don‘t habe to flatten a already eq‘ed signal before eq‘ing for the other speacker…

At last: 48khz or 96khz is not really a different! Most people even dont recognize the difference in an a-b comparison, so really think about it, if its really worth the afford.

Good luck

[KeuleParticipant]

To the first part:

If you use the fader of your dca instead of the mute button, you won’t effect your aux mixes.

Mute is not an On Off button, its a safetyguard and triggers at the start of the Inputline, before all sends and other processing and routing. If you going to unplug or change something, mute will help to secure not mess is going anyway thru your mixer. So this is a completly different function, than you are looking for.

Second part: I cant speak for other vendors and producers, but my experience with sticking to standart behaviers of functions, like A&H does normaly is a pro, not a con, cause you will not fall to problems caused by overcustimization, like a lot of technicians do on – for example digico – other consoles. Its a tool, and if it behaves completely different as expected, this might give you a lot of troubles.

Work with mutegroups, and seperate mutegroups for your voice or break chan. This will do nice, and every other technition will be able to work with it.

Kind regards

[KeuleParticipant]

+1

Next Track, Record, and so on would be nice also

[KeuleParticipant]

Please, make it an optional Feature, if you do.

Thats a shithole for accidantly open Mics while changeovers. And I know not a single one mixer (even analog) wich could open a single line wich was muted by a mute group.

[KeuleParticipant]

Hey Devin,

These are Question, wich should be answered by you local vendor in best case. To summerize:
The Avantis ist quite a bit better than the GLD. The Avantis is set inbetween the SQ and the D-Live Series. But you will have nearly all Features of the D-Live when it comes to mixing. The Avantis ist just limitet to 64chan (GLD 44), and The Processor is in the Mixing Desk (D-Live in the Stagebox).
The SQ has nearly all the Features the GLD had, with a bit different Layout of the interface and its kind of fixed by the numbers of Matrixes, AUxes, etc. But there are still plenty of theme.

Now the tecnigal stuff: You can use your old AR2412 and so on. But It will work in 48khz and the delay is a bit longer (something aroun 1.4 to 1.8 ms) like the good old GLD Times. My Ear says it even sounds the same.
You could use your Dante Card, but you’ll need an adapter. And same Issue here: 48khz only.

If you stick to the old hardware you’ll miss one of the big advantages (next to the new user interface and the capability of triggering dynamics) of the new CPU-Core of the avantis. So consider to invest this two parts. There is a cheaper 64 Chn Dante Card (cheaper than the 128chn, wich makes no sense cause the avantis can only handle 64chn. You could link some channels thruw the card, third party to third party…. barely unnecessary feature) And the gl4824 Is working well and has a good price/performance ratio. Also you get a bit of more precision and sparkling into the sound. My opinion: Its worth the investment.

Your not able to mix the GL Stagebox und and link to a second old stagebox.

You could buy a D-Live Card ( Giga-Ace ) and connect the GX-Stage box on that, so you could connect the old Boxes with the S-Link Connector.

I Think, If you just need to replace the GLD (maybe tecnical defect) but you don’t need the big features (big screens, lots ob buttons, flexibility of asigning matrixes and other buses) you might consider the SQ Series, wich ist quit a good mixer in a lot of way’s, but has just less potties and a smaller screen. (Maybe also not that interesting for complex theater with a lot of scenes….. )

I have tested the avantis for 2 weeks. My vendor answered all questions and gave me the avantis for testing purpose for free. I would suggest you try to find out, if it’s the right mixer is for you, the same way.

[KeuleParticipant]

Hate to say, but when I read this Topic, I’m glad I did’nt buy up to now.

It’s still an option for me, but as I read the software development at the moment, other Options are going to be a real alternative.

Don’t misunderstand me: I like the avantis, and if the software is getting out of juvenile state, it’s an realistic scenario to get one. But till that lags and overall small issues are handled, I don’t dare to buy….

so please Allen&Heath: sort out your priorities! Get it to run!

[KeuleParticipant]

There where similar, but not same problems with the gld and dhcp

Try to hook in there, is a proper dhcp server running and connected?

[KeuleParticipant]

This is kind of complicated.

As I understood it (but not verified) is the new Slink Port a auto adapting port, wich switches between different Protocolls.
The Old Protokol wich was used by GLD & QU are not TCP/IP Based. They are not possible to route over an switch, because of the missiong layers (layer 3 or 4) wich are necesarry for the routing within the Switch.

I think the newer protocolls of SQ and Avantis behaving the same, cause they are mainly made for simple point to point connections.

BUT:

The Avantis also supports the newer Protocolls of all the D-Live Stageboxes, the DX Boxes. And as I understood it, here is a Protocol used, wich ist based on TCP/IP. And the GX4816 is also capable to be used by this protocol.

But I’m not shure, how it would behave. There is a small chance, that it works. Please stand me corrected if not.

Savest Way is a direct connection, without the router. If you have a propper Houseinstallation, you should be able to just make a direkt connection on the patchfields.

The other possibility is Dante, and using a Dante Box or other Dante Hardware. Dante is a TCP/IP Protocol and qorks quit well.

Kind regards

[KeuleParticipant]

You have 12 inputs on the avantis itself.
Better UHF or UHF digital receavers have dante or aes, wich can be upgraded by card.
You can add a Gigaace card and put a dx168 on the foh
If you dont need the slink otherwise, you can place any box (beginning from the ar0804) next to the mixer
You can add a gigaace card and use that for the big gx4816 and once again, use the slink for any box at foh…

I don‘t think thats a important feature, Cause its already solved, sorry 😅

But your right, if you have just 20 wireless mics, and they have to be at foh, a big input box feels a bit weard.
But if you have that much wireless, chances are good to have professional products, wich might support dante or co. If not: Its anyway a pain in the ass job to make the frequency management, so tell your boss: Air is full 😂

[KeuleParticipant]

You could use the matrixes, cause every input can be routed to a matrix, so you probably can build every output constalation, but it takes its time and is just a workarround…

Similar to the lcr, the lr+sub is a bit harsh limitaded too. You can only enable or disable the sub channel, you can’t level the output to the subs. Even the M32 has this feat, and it would be just an option on the custom potty knobs (next to pan, gain, and send to)

Greetings

[KeuleParticipant]

Already implemented by pressing reset and touch/move a fader a bit towarsd the zero position.

It resets single bands of the GEQ

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