[gillyParticipant]

Doctor G said:
” Different vocalists tend to trigger different feedback frequencies, so you may need to re-EQ mics for different vocalists. ”

Dick you said the following:
Not true. Feedback is dependent on the critical distances within the signal path and manifests at different frequencies. The vocalist has literally nothing to do with it in the world of physics.

I would tend to agree with Doc, as in each source, whether they be a vocalist or an instrument, produces different levels of frequencies than others. And if the room characteristics (dimensions and wall covering types and shapes etc..) tends to enhance certain frequencies and that vocalist, or instrument, produces high levels of that particular frequency then surely if it exceeds the threshold for feedback then this will cause feedback ?

[gillyParticipant]

Re proper speaker placement, is there a particular guide to this. We have speakers on stands (as we are renting a Cinema screen room and we have to set up and take down all our sound gear every Sunday) placed about a meter or two out in front of where the singers stand so as to minimize feedback. I would have assumed you just point the speaker fronts slightly off straight towards centre of room and not towards the side walls and placed as high on the stands as possible to try and project sound towards the middle or back row (as seats are tiered in cinema) as otherwise you will blast the people sitting in the front rows trying to receive a decent sound level at the back of room.

[gillyParticipant]

I don’t think so Andreas as a red dot on filter button would appear on all the scenes and I don’t ‘recall’ seeing that, but I will check tonight.

Just a query on the overwriting (or not) of parameters upon scene recall.
Say I have ‘Mute all channels’ on Softkey 1, ‘Mute channels 21-24 only’ on Softkey 2. But in Scene 11 I block Softkeys, so if I am in Scene 8 Softkeys 1 and 2 would have the above mute functions active but if I recall scene 11 there would be nothing assigned to Softkeys 1 and 2, yes?
But when the manual says “Blocked parameters – These are not overwritten when the scene is recalled”, I’m not sure I understand what is overwritten means? So taking the above example, if I recall Scene 11 (which has the Softkeys parameter blocked), that sentence would then mean that “Softkeys are not overwritten when the scene is recalled”, but overwritten with what? If it said that a parameter is or isn’t loaded when a scene is recalled that is clear, but the term overwritten is confusing, to me anyways?

[gillyParticipant]

Dave I tried setting up the soft key but it didn’t work. I must be missing some step in the procedure.
I logged on as Admin and then selected Standard user and then went to Setup…Control…SoftKeys, and selected Key 3 as Recall Scene (and I already set Scene 1 as the startup User Scene for Standard user) and pressed Apply. I then logged out, powered down, powered back up and logged on as Standard user and selected a scene (Scene 11) and pressed SoftKey 3, but it didn’t change the scene to Scene 1. Any ideas what I did wrong?

[gillyParticipant]

Hi Dave
Earlier today I was in church and tried this logon procedure again as described in my previous post, but discovered a glitch….
So when I log in as Admin and then log out and shut down, and then when I log back in as Standard it automatically opens Scene 1, all good so far.

But…..if I log out and shut down after being logged in as Standard user and then log back in again as Standard user, it doesn’t open Scene 1 but opens the first scene in the Standard range, which in my case is Scene 10 !!…not so good!

I wonder is there a way to keep Scene 1 automatically opening up whenever a Standard user logs in??

[gillyParticipant]

I just tested the Scene ‘Read only’ setup and it works, without need for Softkey.

So I logged in as Admin and then selected Standard user and selected Scene 1 as the User Scene and Scene 10-100 as the Scene Range for Standard users. So the Admin has Read & Write access for Scenes 1-9, and the Standard user has Read & Write access for Scenes 10-100, and Read only access to Scene 1 on startup. So if I make Scene 1 the DEFAULT scene with all the correct routing etc, then every time a Standard user logs in it will automatically be on this default Scene 1. He can still tweak settings (and even change the routing, I think?) when in this scene during the service but he can’t then save these as Scene 1, he can only save to Scenes 10-100.

This is ideal, so I will instruct the Standard users to simply log in and set up the Sunday sound from Scene 1. If for example they are in during the week to set up for Sunday (e.g. for band rehearsal) then they set up from Scene 1 and then save to a scene within their range, e.g. Scene 11.

Thanks Dr. Dave and others….

This is what I was wanting all along, read only access to the default scene, but I didn’t know that Standard users could be automatically logged onto a scene on startup outside of Standard user range, is this only a recent upgrade add-on or was this facility there all along?

[gillyParticipant]

Mark do you mean this suggestion from Dr Dave:
“Define a scene range for standard (and basic) users (eg 16-100). Define a start scene (eg 15) outside of that range. Put a scene recall for the start scene on a soft button. Set a password for the top level user. Whenever a user logon occurs, or whenever the soft button is pressed, the start scene will be recalled, resetting any parameters which are not made safe.”

But is he not talking about having to press a soft key in order to recall the default Scene (which is outside the Standard user scene range). I don’t think the standard users will always remember to press a soft key…. In any case if they did press the soft key and the default Scene 1 was recalled, would they be able to adjust settings and save or will they be blocked from saving??

[gillyParticipant]

Giga, I already do this but on a number of occasions one of the Standard users make changes in Scene 10 (such as switching off routing by accident) and then save the scene, so when next Standard user logs in and uses Scene 10 there will be a routing (or whatever) problem.
The only way to avoid this is if Scene 10 was able to be made ‘read only’ and couldn’t be overwritten, but I can’t see from manual a way to have this setup?

[gillyParticipant]

Thanks doc😊

[gillyParticipant]

Airickess and DrDave, I already have a DEFAULT scene set up on Scene 1 (with all the correct routing and other settings etc), which only myself and one other Admin user can access. Standard users have access to Scenes 15 – 100. From time to time I copy Scene 1 to over-write Scene 15 and I have told the standard users to copy from Scene 15 to whatever Scene number they want from 16-100. But as I said, they all don’t obey this procedure and some stay on Scene 15 instead and change settings as they please but then save scene, which of course changes the Default setup for the next person. I like the idea of the Soft Key. So can I put Scene 1 (which is usually outside of Standard users control) on a soft key that standard users can use?

[gillyParticipant]

Not necessarily so Dick. It could be a loose USB or USB-B connection, which would easily cause crackling noises. I never checked this atthe time ??

[gillyParticipant]

Dick we’ve been streaming sermons to the PC for years and never had this issue, so i don’t tend to agree it’s a PC issue. I could be wrong, I was wrong once 😊

[gillyParticipant]

In my case the static noise only occurred on the recording obtained via USB-B to Audacity on the PC. I had a backup of some of the talks via USB stick in Qu-Drive and it was perfect, no static noise. So it does seem like a streaming issue. This never happened before so perhaps its related to the latest software update??
Is there a way of cleaning this up to eliminate or reduce this noise.
I attached an mp3 sample of this, just curious were ye folks able to open and listen to this

[gillyParticipant]

Yes Bob I usually have ST2 and ST3 muted

[gillyParticipant]

The static noise gets worse as the track goes on but then near the end it disappears. And as I said it wasn’t like that in the FOH at all. Perhaps the radio receiver picked up some interference from another nearby channel?

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