[ElphieParticipant]

So Mac OS X 10.10 was released in October 2014. It’s now June 2015. Do you think we could get an updated editor? Does A&H not have an Apple Developer Connection (ADC) account? It can’t be this hard to get an up-to-date editor. Either put us iLive users out of our misery and cut off support or get organised and do it properly. After all, you’re still advertising the iLive, so the least you can do is support it on current client OSes.

michael.

[ElphieParticipant]

Where abouts in Australia?

[ElphieParticipant]

If you connect the mic to your system, you can PFL it and select the RTA. Just don’t send it to your FOH at the same time. It’s not fantastic, but it can get you out of a jam.

Cheers,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

Possible? Yes. Good idea? No. Once your iLive is connected to your regular network, you’ll then have to fight with regular network traffic to control your system. One idea could be to create a separate, prioritized VLAN for audio. I personally wouldn’t connect my audio VLAN with my internet VLAN. There’s just no point. I’m sure this question has been asked before, so you might want to try to search the archives.

Cheers,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

Having been a Mac tech since System 7, I learned long ago not to be an early adopter of Apple OS updates. Always wait for the .2 update of any new OS as a minimum 🙂

[ElphieParticipant]

If you’re comparing an X32 to an iLive, you’ve got rocks in your head. You could compare it to a Qu system, as they are similar price points. If you’re playing at clubs with X32s everywhere please tell me, then I can avoid the like the plague. The two systems are not comparable in any rational sphere.

The OP was about the lack of updates and features. Has it been a bit quiet? Yes. Will this improve? Hopefully. Sure I’ll be disappointed if my iLive never gets another update, but I also know that it’s got more tricks than enough inside it, and certainly more than when I bought it. The graphic EQs & comps were a tad crap in the early firmware. Since 1.71 they’ve been significantly improved.

Cheers,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

I wouldn’t combine anything on the same VLAN as audio control or audio routing. It’s a recipe for disaster. I’d also make sure the QoS is configured correctly on your network to ensure things don’t get messed up. Audio needs to be very high in the list of network priorities. Latency is your enemy. That can be a risk, depending what else you’re running on your network and the capacity of your switches. I’d also have audio isolated from the rest of your DHCP infrastructure too. The last thing you need is a misconfigured PC on your network killing your iLive. If you’re using real Cisco gear (not the domestic Linksys rebranded stuff), your network person should be able to determine the best setup for you.

What advantage are you looking for from integrating your audio control network into your existing infrastructure?

[ElphieParticipant]

You’re not quite on the right track if you want to record things.

You need a recording device to make a recording. Connecting your iLive to your network will not help you accomplish this, unless you’re using Dante. Even with Dante you’ll still need a recording device, like a computer.

Live streaming is similar, but different. You can’t stream audio direct from an iLive to the Internet. You need to connect it to a “streaming box” that handles the streaming side of things.

Our setup consists of a Mac Mini connected to the Internet. On it we run Ustream. Also connected to the Mac is our camera. We run an Aux feed out of our T112 into the camera, which then connects via HDMI into a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle Thunderbolt, then into our Mac. We do it this way as we stream video & audio. If you just wanted audio, you could connect to a computer straight from the iLive.

Alternatively, you could get a little Zoom recorder and record a little 2 track recording from an Aux. Edit the file and upload it to your church website. We also do this.

Hope this helps,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

Why are you trying to run the editor through a firewall? There’s probably a reason why the documentation is old, maybe no-one does it.

[ElphieParticipant]

Hi Mark,

To begin with, you’re correct in thinking that you can’t have the MMO & Dante in the same box. There aren’t enough slots.

We have a similar setup to you. When required, our iDR48 has a MMO, which connects via ADAT to a Alesis HD24 for multitracking. Whilst we could sync this data and mix-down for our stream, we came up with a much easier solution. We use a separate AUX send for the record out, then get our new volunteers to mix down the stream on the fly with an iPad. Works well for us.

To multitrack to a Mac via ADAT, you’ll need an interface of sorts. This also depends if you want all 24 channels of ADAT for recording. Presonus used to make the FireStudio Lightpipe, which was a great product. You might find some on eBay. I don’t know of any product with a similar feature set that’s available. There are a few 16 channel ADAT units on the market, but ADAT isn’t as popular as it used to be.

To multitrack to an external recorder, JoeCo have a nice unit that does 24 channel ADAT. Just need to sync the audio & video together in post. I wouldn’t go down the Alesis route for a new project in 2014. You also need to know that for a local output like ADAT, someone has to be near the recorder to press record (be it a Mac, JoeCo, or something else).

I would suggest that the best multitrack solution, in the long term, is to replace your MMO with Dante. Dante is awesome. It is networkable. Your FOH operator can control it from the desk, or from anywhere on the network. That will involve some tricks with Avioms to make them operable (or replacing them with the A&H stuff).

To see at which point in the signal chain you can take a direct out of your channels, read the firmware manual and download the iLive Editor and have a play. It’s all in there. The short answer is you can take the output at just about any stage of the signal chain.

You’ve also got to take into consideration the quality of your final stream. Due to our available bandwidth onsite and our stream provider, much of our stream mix is tainted by some harsh compression & EQ settings out of our control. We also use our downgraded stream as a friendly encouragement to our absent members that if you want the full church experience, come on in!

After all this, we chose our iPad solution. As I said, it works well for us. Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

Great, thanks.

[ElphieParticipant]

Sorry to be slightly off-topic, but is there a list as to which settings are Show dependant and Scene dependant? I imagine there is some overlap, but a list of what is show-only would be great.

Cheers,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

Just to point out you can’t have full redundancy if all your cables connect back to the same switch. You’re only moving your point of failure to a different location.

With regards to your issue, is spantree portfast enabled?

[ElphieParticipant]

Hi David,

That’s a great technique. Thanks for sharing. I’m going to borrow that one too!

Cheers,
Michael

[ElphieParticipant]

We use Crown iTech HDs with our VRXs here. We’re pretty happy with the bang-for-buck ratio they deliver for us.

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