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I believe this forum us about the ilive series mixers, but it looks like that board has a spdif digital out. You could do a simple board mix by sending that to an interface with a spdif input. There are way too many options there to make any suggestion.
Looking at a T112/48.
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Originally posted by lucesGood day and thanks for the forums. I am hoping to glean a bit more info and some pre purchase guidance. All help is greatly appreciated.
We are a live band that plays approx 210 gigs a year and we play small pubs to big outdoor festivals. Some of these gigs are semi permanent and some are one nighters. We need a system with FOH Mix and four seperate monitor mixes. We are all using in ear monitors.
We need at least 24 channels of ins and mixing capability. We are considering the R72 desk and the iDR32 mixrack.
Now to the questions:Regarding the R72 and the system in general:
1 My understanding is that the Cat5 only handles commands from the R72 and does not actually send/rec. audio. Is that correct?
2 If so, how does the FOH hear audio when he is soloing an instrument?
3 How many FX engines are included in the iDR32? I use the term engines because I am familiar with the Yamaha 01V96 as that is our current console. We need a minimum of 3 Stereo FX Processors. Is the iDR32 capable of this?
4 We are currently using a MixWizard for our monitor board and while it is great we would like to get rid of it. So what do we need to run monitors on stage? Do we need another surface or would the PL remotes work for us?
5 If we decide to keep the MixWizard,could we just send direct outs from the iDR32 into the MixWizard?
I am sure that I will have more questions as I study the possibilties more,however,I think this is all I can think of for now.
So based on the provided info,would someone please suggest a simple and complete system for our needs?
Thanks VERY much!!!!
luces
1&2. Actually the ACE cable carries audio and control information.(ACE stands for Audio Control over Ethernet) While all of the audio is processed in the Mixrack there are inputs and outputs on the control surfaces.
3. You can have up to 8 stereo effects units.
4. Several options here. If you hook up a wireless router you can use an iPad with the MixPad app or any laptop running the editor software to control it. You could also use the PL remotes, but I think the other options will be more useful.
5. Yes you could, but I think you’ll find the mix wizard unnecessary, but they are nice little mixers for sure.
Oh and fwiw I don’t have an iLive system yet. Just looking around and learning until ours gets here. I would highly suggest downloading the editor software and trying it out. It may take a bit to get a handle on, but once you do you’ll begin to understand just how cool these systems can be. Also as far as a complete system goes. It’s my understanding you can actually run the MixRack with just a laptop. So a control surface isn’t even required, but for most people it would be worth the investment. Our church is planning on getting a T112/48 system and I plan on running monitors from the stage with laptop and maybe eventually an iPad. Should easily cover all our needs.
Looking at a T112/48.
Cool. I’ll see what I can figure out.
Looking at a T112/48.
What exactly does the lack of scene fading mean? I’ve seen people mention wanting it. Does that mean the faders suddenly jump between scenes or is audio completely muted? As long as I don’t lose audio on the “backing track” I should be able to adapt to anything else. Ideally I wouldn’t mind having Pro Tools totally control everything, and I’m sure it could be set up to do that. However I don’t have much MIDI experience. I’ve used a MIDI foot controller for some guitar effects units, but that’s about it. No doubt I could eventually figure it out, just didn’t know how big a hill I was gonna be climbing trying to figure it out.
Looking at a T112/48.
I think this is a channel that is designed for the engineer to listen to a mix. You can’t make it go away either. This also confused me when I started playing with the editor. And I could be entirely wrong. Just my guess. Maybe someone else can chime in.
Looking at a T112/48.
On the page he referenced is part 2 which explains the firmware used to control an ilive system. Essentially that’s all there is to an iLive system the hardware and the firmware. Also if you haven’t already done so, downloading and playing with just the editor software helped me a lot. At least I assume it has. I’ll find out for sure once we get our system. But essentially you can tweak and try whatever without a chance of messing something up. If something goes awry you can simply close the editor and start over lol.
And yes the surface has to connect via cable. Apparently the data stream between the two is running just under 100 Mbps and Wifi is usually rated at 54 Mbps. There is a thread somewhere talking about it. Also we plan to do something similar. We’ll have a wi-fi router hooked up and laptop running the editor to make monitor adjustments from the stage.
Oh and great thread idea. Lets keep the ideas going. This is a great way to learn.
Lol. Well I had yesterday off due to the weather. I’m on Oklahoma. So I was just playing with the editor and seeing what all I could do. That was the one thing that wasn’t obvious to me. Still not 100% sure as to why it is like that, but I now know it is. Anyways looks like a great system. Also reading though older posts it looks like A&H are doing their best to meet the users needs/wants with firmware upgrades. Which is always a good thing. Now if the church will just order it so I can get it installed. Ripping out the old copper snake. Not looking forward to that. But replacing it with a couple of network cables will be sweet.
Okay. So I figured it out. Kind of. I get the extra channels when I turn off processing on either IEM or Wedges. Turning processing back on removes the channels. I know I read where using processing on auxes uses more mix channels. So I guess if I don’t use processing I get two extra channels channels but what benefit is this exactly? Just curious. Will they go away if I assign more group outs? Let me check.
Hello. First post here. My church is looking about to purchase an iLive system. According to our dealer, it looks like March. Wish it was already available, but I’m sure I’m not the only one.
