Matrix as extended aux

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  • #84710
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    CasparC
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    It would be nice to have the option to use the a matrix as an “extended aux”.

    By that I mean, that i would like to be able to ajust the volume for each source that is send to the matrix.
    – just like in a normal aux.

    It would be usefull, when you are using all 12 aux and need a extra send with some inputs, fx’s, aux and so on.
    … Just like the matrix nomally works, but with the feature to ajust source-volume, instead og just pre/post.

    #84723
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    Alex A&H
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    Hi CasparC,

    A matrix bus is a mix bus for mix buses, so it is not possible to send input channels or FX returns to a matrix on SQ. You can, however, adjust the level of any mix bus which is sent to the matrix. This is done in the Routing page for the matrix, or you can select the mix bus you would like to adjust for the matrix and use the CH to All Mix key to view the send on the fader.

    Thanks!

    Alex

    #94078
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    TheBeardedDude
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    One of the features I miss on the SQ (since transitioning from the GLD series) is having the ability to select a matrix as the currently selected “mix” and then being adjust the individual Aux, Group, and Main LR send levels to the matrix using the faders. Is there currently any way to mix the send levels going to a matrix using the faders?

    #94079
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    conrad
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    That sounds very useful. Maybe something like DCA spill, but for matrices?

    #94080
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    TheBeardedDude
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    I would certainly be willing to give up a soft key to gain the ability to adjust the mix levels feeding a matrix using faders! If anyone knows how I might accomplish this, please let me know.

    #94081
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    volounteer
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    @thebeardeddude

    Just adjust the faders on the channels going into the mix.
    BUT Then you have moved the problem to the other locations those channels feed.

    In short, like @alex A&H said, YOU CAN *NOT* DO IT the way you want not even by giving up a soft key.

    Would AH do it sometime in the future on a new generation of mixers?
    I doubt it but they might give you other options that would work for you.

    #94082
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    Mike C
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    Just adjust the faders on the channels going into the mix.
    BUT Then you have moved the problem to the other locations those channels feed.

    You missed the point of the question completely!!!
    He was asking about using the matrix as another mix/aux as is all input channels being available at the
    at the matrix mix.

    And….if you adjust the mix/aux levels on a channel that will only change the levels on the mix you
    are adjusting not any other level associated with that channel.
    Now….if any of the mixes/auxes are set to post fade then adjusting the main LR mix will change the
    levels on the post fade mixes/auxes.

    #94083
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    volounteer
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    @#MikeC

    a matrix is not a mix

    moving the faders will change the matrix
    as well as anything else on the main layer they go to
    but will not change the mix which is another layer that is independent

    he wishes (this is the suggestion forum) that they would make matrix a mix
    but like @alex A&H said he cannot do it today

    maybe some day in the future with a newer AH device … maybe

    #94084
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    Mike C
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    a matrix is not a mix

    I am so well aware of that!!!

    Your terminology and use of layers and mixes is a little confusing!

    #94087
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    volounteer
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    @mikec
    so is the Qu!
    when I push a mix button it acts like a layer to me, with the faders all shifting to the mix setting

    #94089
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    SteffenR
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    when I push a mix button it acts like a layer to me, with the faders all shifting to the mix setting

    after all these months with postings from you, this is still unclear to you?
    I’m perplexed

    the mix buttons have nothing to do with the layers

    the layer selection defines what is present on all the strips
    just 3 joices on the QU
    input layer (all mic input strips)
    output layer (includes matrixes, fx sends, fx returns, stereo inputs, mix masters and bus master where available)
    custom layer (here you can configure what is dedicated to the strips, empty by default)

    the mix button defines the function of the fader on that strips
    and enables sends on faders and the functions pre/assign to the selected mix
    and at the same time the master strip becomes the master for this mix
    the select mute and PAFL buttons still have the same functionality

    #94091
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    SteffenR
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    I would certainly be willing to give up a soft key to gain the ability to adjust the mix levels feeding a matrix using faders! If anyone knows how I might accomplish this, please let me know.

    you have to buy an Avantis or dLive

    #94094
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    Mfk0815
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    Hmm, i am also missing to have Sends on Faders to control the sendlevels of the busses to a matrix. I am not talking about sending input channels to a matrix. But the current procedere is really uncomfortable.
    What is possible at the moment is using the touch screen or the channel to all mixes button for a selected bus.
    There is a assignable mix select option for soft buttons. But you can only choose busses but no matrix. I cannot see any reason for this redundancy since all of these possible option are already assigned to buttons, the dedicated, unchangable mix select buttons on the right side of the console.
    And for me, Steffen, this simple enhancement should not be the reason to buy a system which costs at least five times more than a SQ.
    And, by the way, we are here in a feature suggestion forum. Don’t forget this.

    #94096
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    SteffenR
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    And for me, Steffen, this simple enhancement should not be the reason to buy a system which costs at least five times more than a SQ.
    And, by the way, we are here in a feature suggestion forum. Don’t forget this.

    I don’t forget this… but this is the correct answer to the question above
    at least at the moment 😉

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