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2014/10/21 at 7:33 pm #42386
@software guys- This is how I want the scene list to work, and I’m sure I’m not the only one:
– You start with your first song, tweak it until you are happy with it, name it and store it as “scene one”
– Then you move on to scene 2, the console copies scene one settings on that, you tweak again, and store. Now there’s your “scene two”.
– You go on like this until you have all your different scenes stored, and there is a list of them on the scenes-screen.
– You assign a softkey to be “scene next-go”, and it does that, the active scene always highlighted on the list.
The “logic” behind this current scene-recall scheme got so confusing, glitches ‘n’ all, that I was not even sure which scene I was storing, because the right half of the screen shows me the next “queued” scene, and the actual list the current. Add to that the bottom bar, and it’s a lot of confusing and contradictory information. Just give me the cue-list, full-screen, please.
2014/10/21 at 6:56 pm #42384@GC- thanks for reassuring me that I have not lost my mind. (I will soon) Obviously, A&H need to fix this, sooner rather than later. At least I have all my inputs on a single layer, so if it were only about muting the unused channels, I could manage it manually, but unfortunately I have severe EQ-changes per song on almost every channel at certain points in the show… not to mention compressor/gate settings, fx… I think recalling from the touchscreen works, but you need to confirm, and it is just plain too slow, the cue is gone, and guess who gets the flak?
2014/10/21 at 6:42 pm #42383I’m wondering… how hard could it be to program “next scene/previous scene”- soft keys to do just that: jump to the next/previous when you push that button, no queueing the next, nothing- just perform the bloody task.
My old LS9 did just that on its “user defined” keys. Never a single glitch, ever. Hated the workflow otherwise, and was happy when the Qu- series was introduced, because they let me mix in a straightforward way. But if I can’t trust it… well, need to check out M32, I guess.2014/10/21 at 6:05 pm #42381Sorry to say, but The Bug is back. Softkey- scene recall worked for almost one working day after a hard reset, and now it’s messed up in a different way. I have assigned the bottom two softkeys for “scene previous” (5) and “scene next” (10). Key 5 keeps jumping to an unassigned status after pressing it once. And now the status bar at the bottom of the screen has gone back to showing both current and next being the same scene.
I’m working on a show with over 30 audio cues, and feeling very uncomfortable with the console at the moment. I just can’t keep hard-resetting it over&over again, and relying on USB- dump. I mean, how can I trust the show transfer, if I can’t trust the softkey-assignments?
This has to be resolved soon,
T.K.
2014/10/20 at 2:28 pm #42347Yes,the hard reset was the only way to get the desk to behave… hope it doesn’t freak out during the season. I’ll be transferring show-files paranoidically from now on.
Thanks for your patience,
Tuomas Kolehmainen
Winter Circus “Dream”
Helsinki, Finland2014/10/20 at 1:28 pm #42340Getting somewhere… the console is not storing/recalling layer 2 settings. Wonder what that means? Still cannot understand, why scene one appears twice- why isn’t scene #2 queued when at scene #1 ?
2014/10/20 at 1:15 pm #42338@Bob- I can live with next scene being queued, rather than directly recalled, but the console seems to be “stacking” scenes now, for some reason. If I recall scene 2 in my que-list, also the next, “queued” scene is number 2. This does not happen every time, though, the scene recall behaves differently depending on whether I recall from the touch-screen or softkey. Besides, no matter how I recall, settings have not been stored.
Running on V1.5, which I suppose is the latest revision?
Utterly confused- never thought I’d miss my old Yamaha…
2014/10/20 at 11:04 am #42336Yes, I am trying to figure this out with three scenes now, and starting to come to a conclusion that the whole scene function is seriously messed up. My Qu-24 does not even store my scene settings any more. If I highlight a scene on the list, and press “store”, desk asks “overwrite”, I confirm, but it won’t do it, the previous contents remain in place. If I start recalling scenes from number one on the scene-list, both “current” and “next” are number 1, with the same name. I now press “next” on a softkey, current remains, but now next changes to number 2. (can’t understand,btw, why you have to press “next” twice in order to actually move to the next scene) Well, the scene scrolls, but no settings are stored. I’ve tried every which way to make the console understand, but to no avail. I am in a the middle of a large circus production-premier getting close-, and I’m f****d with this scene-system. Help!
P.S. it is ridiculous, that “scene previous” can’t be “auto incremental”.
2014/09/03 at 4:22 pm #41486“Auto increment” does the trick, thanks JLD, happyhappy!
T.K.
2014/08/23 at 9:12 pm #41426Well… I really don´t think an inadvertent push of a soft key is an issue with a Qu-console. Qu´s buttons have to be pressed quite firmly before anything happens. On a,say, Yamaha, where the buttons are more of a ´soft touch´-type, and the keys are located in the low corner of the desk it can happen, albeit they are ergonomically in the right place. On a Qu you have to lift your arm to reach the soft-keys, but I understand most users prefer having the mix-select buttons within easiest reach. But I know I´m going to suffer neck and shoulder pains after a hundred two-hour shows with a couple of dozen cues each, hanging my finger over that soft-key… and another hovering over the touchscreen.
I am more worried about missing a touchscreen button, because the screen real-estate is not used efficiently, and the button areas are too small. And you have to lift your arm even more to reach the touchscreen. Perhaps they have left all that empty space to accommodate for more features to come, but most buttons are inconvenient nevertheless. The metering-window, for example, could be a lot clearer to read. Since there are no buttons to press in that window, the metering bars could be a lot bigger, and preferably on a darker background. You can´t really call them “daylight-viewable”. There´s room for improvement in the graphics department, IMHO.
2014/05/19 at 6:58 am #39820You could assign your subwoofer to aux-dedicate one mono mix to it, if you can spare one. This approach has the advantage of being able to control the amount of signal being sent to the sub with a fader, per channel, it gives you great control.Just lo-pass the mix send. You also have the delay in the mix master, so you can align the sub with the mains. If you cannot spare a mix, get a separate crossover, and send from L/R.
2014/03/11 at 5:14 pm #38198Talkin´about changing colours- please redesign the metering on the Qu-series. They look ugly and are hard to read in any light! There are these weird “frames” around the meters, which are completely unnecessary frills, especially as the meters are tiny to begin with. Please change the background colour to black, or at least to something a lot darker to improve contrast. Same goes for any screen, IMHO.
T.K.
2013/11/25 at 8:09 am #36306Yep, this is waste of soft keys. I would like to have e.g. “all killed”, delay tap and scene next/previous on soft keys. One other suggestion: when using soft keys for scene changes, it would be nice if the actual scene list would scroll, and highlight the present screen, rather than just have that little text in the lower right hand corner. Which puzzles me- I tried to assign the keys directly for “scene next/previous”, and nothing happens, but it still announces that the scene is in use. Definitely room for improvement…
Best Regards,
Tuomas Kolehmainen
Helsinki, Finland -
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