[JoeParticipant]

Jay, thank you for responding. That answers my question.

[JoeParticipant]

Thank you. I’m not sure why the technical datasheet omits the word “fully”, whereas, the brochure has it.

[JoeParticipant]

Ray, thanks for the suggestion.

[JoeParticipant]

there are many different ways to do this and none of them is wrong, they are just different and a shelfing has no bandwith

It is more than just “different” as you put it. It is a limitation for my use and the thread starter. Perhaps, it doesn’t affect you, but does that give you the right to nullify another persons concern?

And, you are most certainly incorrect about shelving! They do have an associated bandwidth. It is basically related to the transition width of the shelf. The transition width (bandwidth) is possible to be adjusted, but they just need to expose that hidden parameter. It is currently set to 2.0 octaves, but you can’t see it. It is easy to reverse engineer the actual value with the software tools that I have written.

[JoeParticipant]

I forgot to comment about the shelving behavior from the original post. The BW appears to be fixed at about 2 octaves with the frequency selected at an awkward spot. Whereas, most software will reference the frequency at the natural pivot point of the shelf. Therefore, the dLive poses a problem by not allowing it to go above 20kHz which works out to be only 8.2kHz when compared to a normal system. This is bad. I don’t think R&D thought this through. This will be tough to fix without breaking backward compatibility. But, it should be doable. They’ll also need to deal with the low shelf in a similar way. It would also be cool if they exposed BW on the shelving EQ to allow a range from something like 1.3 to 2.3 octaves.

[JoeParticipant]

This is crazy! I’m a prospective buyer and this may be a deal breaker. I’ve downloaded Director 1.80 and noticed that the PEQ drawing representation is not linear to the BW of an octave. It ranges from around 2x at the widest 1.5 setting up to 3x at the 1/9th setting compared to the industry standard BW octave scale: https://www.rane.com/note170.html.

Also, what is it with the ‘purist’ labeling for the console to use a combination of decimals and fractions like “1/9” instead of just “0.11” rounded? Yes, “1/2”, “1/3”, and “1/4” are not that difficult, but when comparing neighboring values of mixed fractions puts a strain on anyone who is not a mathematician. I’d suggest a global setting that allows a selection of the numbering system representation of your choice. While you are at it, add ‘Q’ as an option.

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