[Joe HinkensParticipant]

*SOLVED*
After getting all my routing issues sorted with the DAW and the Dante matrix, all is well. Record and playback levels are identical.

One again, operator error.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

Thanks Chris,
For the short term workaround to satisfy my immediate needs, I simply plugged my headphones into the headphone jack of the wireless in-ears transmitters. My guess is the problem stems from operator error. I’ll dig in to it more tonight.

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Does input PAFL work?

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The PAFL on auxes works fine when its source is the regular input from the AR2412. For what it’s worth, our auxes consist of 5 stereo mixes.

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Are your aux mixes showing any signal level?
Do you have the aux master turned down and mix PAFL in AFL mode?

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I’m not at the desk right now but I’m sure the aux mixes are showing level becuase they’re sending audio to the wireless transmitters and headphone amp in the rack. Aux master is also set at unity.

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Are you using the “Wedge” and “IEM” channel strips?
The GLD has an option to assign a mix to either “Wedge” or “IEM”. These can be assigned to output sockets. The “IEM” mix can be assigned to the headphone socket.

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I have the Wedge and IEM showing on Bank 2 but I don’t have them assigned to anything yet. At least I don’t think so. Only after reading your explanation do I understand how they’re intended to be used. It seems the correct setup for us would be to use the IEM strip and assign it to the headphones, like you mentioned. I assume that’s configured in the setup menu?

Also, I do have a couple scenes setup for switching the Dante input on and off. Basically it’s just a couple scenes with filters that have everything blocked except the patchbay and I/O routing.

I’ll dig in tonight and give it another go. Many thanks for all your help.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by eotsskleet

just press the PAFL Button on your AUX-Channel!

GLD-80 / AR2412 / AR84 / Qu-16

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Unfortunately, that doesn’t feed any audio to the phones when the input is from the Dante card input. It works fine when the input if coming from the input sockets on the AR2412.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

Chris,
Thanks for much for the help getting me sorted. It’s good as gold now. Working great.
I’m stoked!

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by Chris93

Switch off the record monitoring in S1. Reaper would call it record monitoring, the DAW track is playing back the signal that is coming into it.

It would be used to let you listen to the mics while the tracks were being recorded.

What I think is happening is this:

Signal coming into GLD channels 1-2, Direct out from these go out Dante 1-2, This goes to the drum channels in the DAW, which have record monitoring turned on so their signal goes out via Dante back into inputs 1 and 2 on the GLD, which have direct outs going back to the DAW via Dante.

You’re trying to record yourself recording yourself recording yourself, kind of like pointing a video camera at a mirror.

Mute the DAW.

Chris

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Your fix sounds spot on Chris. I’ll try it tonight when I get home from the ‘salt mine’. As you probably have guessed, this stuff is new to me. I was staring at it into the wee hours of the night and just didn’t have the wits to figure it out. I think the default in Studio One is to enable the monitor feature each time a track is armed to record. I’ll find that setting and turn it off.
Many thanks from this rookie.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by Joe Hinkens

i’ve discovered that playback levels via the Dante card are several db lower than the original live recorded level. In the Studio One DAW I’m using, I’ve got good signal on the inputs and all the faders are set at unity.

I’m sure I’m missing something. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

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Hi Chris,
I checked and there’s no trim on my Dante card inputs. Everything is at 0db. I guess it would be OK to increase the fader level on the DAW for playback of equal level to the live level. If that doesn’t get it, I’ll use the trim to level things out.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

I found a fix that works fine for my needs. Just a mouse click to solo the channel from within the DAW. So obvious. Couldn’t see the forest through the trees.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by Chris93

All scenes save everything, but how much of that information is included in the recall can be set in the recall filters and scene safes.

Chris

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Ahhh, got it. That makes sense. Thanks Chris.

Thanks,
Joe

GLD-80 w/M-DANTE, GLD-AR2412, MacBook Pro, Studio One 2

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by gkhewitt

Great!

Regarding scenes – they will save and allow recall of patchbay settings (in other words, the IO screen). So we have one scene called “Dante ON” which sets the patchbay to receive inputs from Dante, and another called “Dante OFF” which returns the patchbay to inputs from the standard DSnake inputs. You can then set the recall filter on both to exclude all other settings (so everything is filtered apart from the patchbay).

We then have these two scenes mapped to softkeys to allow for quick on/off.

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Hey GK,
That’s really a clever solution. It’s mind blowing to me how versatile the GLD 80 is. To be sure I’ve really got my head around this, I want to clarify.

With the ‘Dante ON’ and ‘Dante OFF’ filter method, either one of those scenes only saves the patchbay settings. So suppose that after you finished tweaking levels, EQ, etc with the ‘Dante ON’, would you recall the ‘Dante OFF’ scene and then save that scene to another ‘fixed’ scene with no filters?

In other words, saving it to a third or additional scenes with no filters would save everything.
Sorry for the simple questions but all the options on this mixer have my head reelin’!

Thanks,
Joe

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by gkhewitt

OK, so you’ve set the mapping in Dante Controller (make sure it’s in both directions so GLD -> DVS and DVS -> GLD).

Have you also set the mapping on the GLD itself – under the I/O screen and “IO Card In” tab?

We use two scenes that have everything filtered apart from the patchbay – this allows us to switch Dante playback effectively “on and off”

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GK, that was the biggest part of it. I simply didn’t have the mapping on the I/O screen set properly. In addition, my unfamiliarity with the DAW software resulted in the outputs all being summed to a main L&R out. So after getting all that sorted, I finally got audio.

I was still puzzled at the practical approach to doing a quick playback when needed. But you answered that question with the scenes. I didn’t think of that. So I can simply save a scene within a ‘Show’? Meaning I don’t have to save a different ‘Show’? I thought the Show saved all the routing settings and a Scene merely saved all the processor settings.

Thanks for your help and the quick response. I was pulling my hair out!
Joe

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by Chris93

This may be the same as what jcarter just said, but because the scenes are stored in the show you will want to overwrite your show file to update the scene memories within it.

If you recall a show file which has the scenes “intro” “band 1” “band 2” and then add a “band 3” and don’t overwrite the show file with the new version, “band 3” will be gone next time you recall it.

Chris

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That makes perfect sense Chris. Thanks for the explanation.

Thanks,
Joe

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

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Originally posted by jcarter

A template is similar to a show (essentially it’s a factory-defined show that you can’t change or delete).

Each show contains its own separate set of user libraries (saved EQ settings, dynamics, etc) and has its own set of 500 slots to save scenes.

There are some aspects of the board setup (PAFL preferences for example) that aren’t stored per-scene but only per-show. And I don’t think you can store a single scene to USB but only a complete show file.

Saving and recalling scenes is essentially instantaneous, saving and recalling shows can take a little longer. In a live situation, you’d generally be working off of one show file and flipping between saved scenes in that show (in a festival-type scenario you might have one saved show per band).

Clear as mud?

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Yea J,
I think I’ve got it. Essentially, ‘scenes’ are a subset of ‘Shows’ (templates). So theoretically, If i had several user scenes, saving a user show would bring the scenes along with it. Is that right?
Thanks,
Joe

Thanks,
Joe

[Joe HinkensParticipant]

Thanks for the confirmation guys. Dante it is.

On a side note, is there a setting for this forum where I’ll be notified by email when a reply is posted to a thread I’m participating in?

Many thanks,
Joe

Thanks,
Joe

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