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It may be useful for A&H to add some log text that says why the mixpad is disconnecting. May help isolate some of these problems, or at least point us in a more specific direction.

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the OP is already using 5ghz exclusively …….

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missed that – thanks.

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Well for what it is worth, I was the one who posted the thread awhile back about using the same router with a different board in the same venue. Results being iLive drop outs common, other board no drops outs. This led to the 10ms timeout comment from A&H.

I have sinced ditched my 2.4Ghz router and switched to a 5Ghz. Back to same venue last weekend with packed house – no drop outs. To soon to be conclusive but switching to a 5Ghz router (and disabling the 2.4 reception and 2.4/5ghz SSID broadcast) has seemed to help me. Time will tell.

New router:

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Originally posted by guyharris

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Originally posted by jgrooms

Nice update but I’m confused on the multiband compressors.

How are you all going to use these? I was expecting these to be on the channels as a compressor “type” (like the new EQ’s) not an effect . I don’t buss inputs to a compressor like a reverb? Am I missing something?

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Hi!

You can use the multiband compressors as any other effect, as an insert on any given input channel. This uses up FX buses in your mixer configuration, so it doesn’t work the same way as the per-channel compressors / limiters, but it achieves the desired effect. How many multi-band compressors would you need?! We are using the new, fantastic multi-band compressors as a normal FX, as a ‘voice of god’ for the singers to talk to the audience between numbers, and it works GREAT!

All the best!

http://www.pianojam.nl

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Ahh, I see it now! Thanks, I was indeed missing something!

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Nice update but I’m confused on the multiband compressors.

How are you all going to use these? I was expecting these to be on the channels as a compressor “type” (like the new EQ’s) not an effect . I don’t buss inputs to a compressor like a reverb? Am I missing something?

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Although I understand in this case its the same router, during our testing we’ve seen access point stutter relating to additional wireless clients going in and out of range.

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Given this, do you believe (or recommend) hiding the SSID broadcast (probably a good idea anyway but currently mine is on)? Will this reduce the amount of connection attempts by foriegn devices? Or am I not interpreting what you are saying correctly?

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Originally posted by bucks

Hi All

R.E Comms drop outs over wifi we’ve been doing quite a lot of testing recently as were gearing up for OneMix release.

Our lost comms trigger is 10 seconds of no UDP comms between rack and Editor / MixPad.

The difference between Behringer and A&H may just be the timeout they’ve chosen, or they may not have one ! Try using the Behringer, then turn the router off, how long does it take to inform you the connection has been dropped?

The protocol they’ve chosen as well as the timeout will govern how forgiving their software is. Its a balancing act between not giving false positives, but also telling you as soon as possible if the router has been turned off.

Although I understand in this case its the same router, during our testing we’ve seen access point stutter relating to additional wireless clients going in and out of range. This varies massively by brand, and can have an impact on throughout; they’ll be more info on this shortly as its topical for OneMix users.

Cheers

Andy.

Andy
A&H

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Thanks for the response. I will try that and see what happens.

Regardless, I realize there are many variables involved with WiFi performance. I just thought this to be an interesting observation with relatively low number of variables.

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Originally posted by mumu

It IS The 5ghz, ever since i am on it i dont have any problems anymore

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If this were the case, the Behringer console would also experience drop outs since what you are describing is a frequency congestion problem. The evidence suggests, this is not the problem since there are no dropouts using the exact same router with the Behringer console.

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And for clarity, it is the same physical router. My friend borrowed mine. It’s not separate one of the same type. It’s literally the same router.

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Originally posted by Rexeltw

I assume you are just using the router to run Editor?

Having never used the B-ringer I can’t comment on the difference between the two but assuming your friend hasn’t been using your actual router it could be the channel you are using on your router already has a lot of traffic on it. Or it could be as simple as their software does less so using a lot less bandwidth. All speculation I’m afraid

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Just remember kids no matter how good your mixing is you can’t polish a turd…

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Yes, I am controlling my iLive with the Editor and/or mixpad – no surface.

The router configuration wasn’t changed so he was using the same channel, in the same venue in which I get the drop outs.

While it may be bandwidth, that’s a little hard for me to beleive that the iLive generates so much network traffic as to bog the router down. If it did, the router would never work but it does, and does fine for awhile but eventually will drop out.

I dunno, it is certainly all speculation but it is also interesting to see the difference in performance between the two systems. And for me, this provides evidence that it is not crowded spectrum causing the problem.

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Yes! New Editor will do this. Note that you can already quickly change input patching by saving your setup as a scene with just the patchbay settings stored. Scene A = normal inputs, Scene B = Madi (Dante etc) inputs. Hope that helps!

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Great, thank you. I didn’t even think of making a scene. Duh. Thank you again.

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Will there be new editor software for 1.9 (I am assuming so)?

If so, will there be a way to quickly switch the preamp inputs from the mixrack interal preamps to say the MADI inputs all at once? I have seen this is possible on a surface but I haven’t seen this in the editor software.

I currently have to manually change all my inputs back and forth to feed the console a multitrack recording.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by naffdave

A thing ive noticed on here everything seems to be about connecting this connecting that seems to me nobody interesting in actually mixing sound just all computer geeks wanting to try the next toy out.
Im a 58 year old soundy started out without graphics/gates/comps or computers but took a digital desk out on tour as soon as i could as i saw the potential but i use it to mix sound not spend the whole time messing with routing and configuring and mixpad.
Does anyone else feel that with digital desks the whole thing has shifted away from just getting a good sound.
Naff

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To some degree but keep in mind this really is a support forum with people seeking support or answers to questions because they are new, configuring a new system, thinking about a new system, having problems with their system, etc.

Not to mention, it’s a little tough to talk about mixing in the sense, you have to hear a mix to talk about it. Not to say there aren’t mixing related topics to discuss.

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Originally posted by Rui Miguel

The thing is, it works…

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Yup it does. This is my primary system as I mainly do sound for my band and small venues. There is simply no room at these venues for a console out front but always room for an iPad and a laptop on/side the stage.

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Originally posted by jgrooms

If the only reason you are duplicating inputs is to get a pre-compressor feed to your monitors, you may want to look into the routine features on your aux masters. You can determine where in the signla chain the aux send takes its signal.

Right click on the aux master and navigate to the routine submenu. then select the point that is most appropriate for you. In your case something pre-compressor.

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routine = routing
Routine = routing

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