[dshriverParticipant]

Through the iLive there is no way to do a remote power on/off. However, with the addition of other equipment it is of course possible. I do a remote power with my iLive system. The mixrack is connected to my Middle Atlantic Power Sequencer. I can remotely turn the sequencer on and off via a contact closure relay. In my system, that relay is controlled via logic outputs on my BSS system DSP. The DSP is controllable via ethernet. All my AV gear is on its own network without internet access. So the final link is a computer with two network cards. One card for the AV network, the other for the house internet network. I then use remote desktop to that system, log into the control for the system DSP and can then send a power up or power down command to the sequencer. This turns on/off most of the AV equipment (amps, assisted listening, video system, iLive, etc).

That’s probably way more complicated than what you want to do though.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Through the iLive there is no way to do a remote power on/off. However, with the addition of other equipment it is of course possible. I do a remote power with my iLive system. The mixrack is connected to my Middle Atlantic Power Sequencer. I can remotely turn the sequencer on and off via a contact closure relay. In my system, that relay is controlled via logic outputs on my BSS system DSP. The DSP is controllable via ethernet. All my AV gear is on its own network without internet access. So the final link is a computer with two network cards. One card for the AV network, the other for the house internet network. I then use remote desktop to that system, log into the control for the system DSP and can then send a power up or power down command to the sequencer. This turns on/off most of the AV equipment (amps, assisted listening, video system, iLive, etc).

That’s probably way more complicated than what you want to do though.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

8 isn’t nearly enough. 12 isn’t either though. 32 would be closer to the number I’d like.

I’d really like to gang the mutes on channels when I’m splitting inputs for FoH and Monitors. I often have 20-30 inputs, with each going to two strips. One set of the strips is for FoH another is for Monitors. Its really handy to be able to mute both at the same time. I can do this with ganging, but with only 8 its not really practical.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Dave,

There isn’t anyway to always show it on the LCD on the surface. However it is always visible on the iPad and on the Editor. Many of us find it useful to keep an editor session running on a laptop beside our surface.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

The pad itself doesn’t cause noise. The problem is that the pre-amp gets noisy at its highest gain settings. The pad cuts 25db from the signal. If you add all that gain back and end up at the upper end of the pre-amp its going to be noisy. Only use the Pad when turning the pre-amp all the way down doesn’t reduce the signal enough. The pre-amps on the iLive are very good and do offer a 55db range. However I find the last 10db too noisy to be really useful.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Have you checked the startup scene? It is possible that you have the system setup to recall a scene at start-up and that start-up scene is what is causing all your strip assignments to move.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Daniel

This would be fairly simple to do with scenes. Create two scenes that only have the mutes for the channels you need to control. Map the scene recalls to two softkeys.

Alternatively you could use DCA mute groups. You’d need two of them and you’d need to toggle both (one to mute the FX one to unmute the audience mics).

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

2. If you chose “MixRack Input” instead of IP direct out then the feed to the Dante will be post gain but pre-trim. If you take Direct Out its post gain and trim.

3. To do this you’ll want to set up a couple of scenes that just change the input patchbay. What I usually do is make scene 1 a full scene with all parameters. Then scene 2 and 3 are scenes that only contain the patchbay. On scene 2 update it with all the IP sources coming from the Mixrack sockets and on scene 2 update it with all the IP sources set as Dante inputs. Then recall scene 2 to mix a live show and recall scene 3 to playback and mix a recorded show. Changes to EQ or FX or routing (etc etc) that you want to make can be saved in scene 1.

4. You might trim a few dollars off that price if you find one used, but they are a rare commodity on the used market.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Both are possible.

I often find it useful to setup a “test channel”. To do this I assign an unused IP to a strip. I turn it OFF from the main mix as a safety measure. Then I set its input source to the same as the channel I want to preview (or experiment on). I then copy the original channel to my test channel (press and hold copy, press SEL on original channel; press and hold paste, press SEL on test channel). Now you have an identical copy of one of your channels. PAFL this channel and play with it without it making any changes to anything anyone hears. Once you’re happy with the test channel make those changes to the original channel.

To preview an FX there are a couple of options. If the FX isn’t being used you can just PAFL on it to hear what it’ll sound like. If its currently on in the mix and being used you can create a new FX on one of the other FX channels and make changes there until you are happy, then bring up the new FX while bringing out the old one.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Doug

We are a d&b house here. I have a rack full of their D6 amps. I do have a couple Crown amps driving my 70v lobby system though.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Greger

Yes you can. You can set the 8 analog outputs on the T-112 (B1-4 and D1-4) from any source that you can on the iDR. So you could set those outputs to be

Mono or Stereo Groups
Mono or Stereo Aux
Main
Mono or Stereo Matrix
Input (IP) direct out
PAFL L/R
Mix Rack Inputs
Bus Output
Mono or Stereo Wedge
Stereo IEM
Rack Effects
Ace Link
Port B Ace

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

I finally got this problem figured out. With v1.9 software there are 3 ACE networking options for the Port B card in the iDR rack. They are:

Redundancy On – All inputs from Link 1 – For two cable redundant backup connection (FOH/Monitor or Dual-Rack systems).

Redundancy Off: In1-64 from Link1 – For 64 channel system linking (FOH/Monitor or DualRack) or adding one xDR-16 expander with 48 inputs from its Port B. The second socket is available to daisy chain 64 outputs to another MixRack.

Redundancy Off: In1-32 Lnk1, 33-64 Lnk2 – For connecting two xDR-16 expanders with 32 inputs available from each Port B.

I had the 2nd option selected but I couldn’t figure out how to access Port B channels 33-64. I finally realized those channels are not accessed the same way that the first 32 are.

With the xDR attached to the Port B ACE card in my iDR and a Dante card in the xDR Port B slot there are 64 ACE channels coming into iLive from the xDR. When you set an IP source ACE Channels 1-16 are the xDR-16 preamps (XA-1 – XB-. ACE Channels 17-32 are selected as xDR Port B (X1 1-16). ACE Channels 33-64 are selected as “Ace Port B” (33-64). It would have been nice if those last 32 channels were listed with the xDR Port B channels. That’s where I expected to find them and that was my stumbling block. But to get to those extra 32 channels you have to select “Ace Port B”.

I understand the reason that Allen and Heath did it that way. Those channels are normally used for redundency or for a 2nd xDR-16. Still, its not obvious how you would select them if you want to use all 64 channels from one xDR-16.

Now my only real complaint is that there is no way to turn off the 16 channels of pre-amp in the xDR and get a full 64 channels of Dante into the iLive if the Dante is installed in the xDR Port B slot.

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

The maximum number of aux sends is 32. You can route them to the T112 or the mix rack but the max number is still 32. You could even route them digitally to Dante or ES outputs. Why do you need more than 32? Could some of the outputs you need be accomplished with direct outs, or matrix outs? Matrix and Direct Outs neither one take up a processing bus.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

8 internal FX is the limit of the iLive architecture. If you need more than 8 you could get more by using a SoundWaves card or with outboard units.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

[dshriverParticipant]

You can, but it takes jumping through a few hoops.

There is one card slot on an iDR rack. So you could use the Waves Card or the MMO card there, but not both. However, if you fit that card with an ACE card, it allows you to connect 2 XDR extenders and each extender has a card slot.

So you’d need an iDR with an ACE card fitted. 2 xDR-16 extenders. Put your MMO card in one and your Waves card in the other.

-d

_________________________
David Shriver
Director of Technical Operations
Email: david@rockportmusic.org

Shalin Liu Performance Center
37 Main Street
Rockport, MA 01966
http://www.rockportmusic.org

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