[dshriverParticipant]

I’m sad to say it, but I think that A&H has stopped any iLive development. All their attention was on the GLD then on the QU. I expect in another year we’ll see an iLive 2. The GLD has gotten some new FX and the scene cross fades, both of which I’d love to see on iLive. I don’t think those features are going to trickle down (up?) to us though. The current firmware is stable, so I think the 1.9x version is going to be the last real update to the iLive system.

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[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Blake

Your system setup seems fine to me.

What are you setting as your Dante Outputs? Are you using IP Direct Outs or Sockets?

Can you confirm your Dante routing is correct? Also, what are you recording to (what software)?

As a troubleshooting step can you try setting the inputs from the surface to the first 16 dante channels? You know that Dante channels 1-16 work since you can record them if they are the iDR channels. Try setting them to the surface channels just as a test.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Blake,

Can you describe your setup in more detail?

If your surface is connected via ES then you’d need an ES card in your mixrack. If that’s the case, where do you have your Dante card installed? Are you using a modular surface and mixrack?

Were you sending IP direct out or Socket outputs to your Dante stream? How many total channels are you trying to record?

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

I use a laptop over wifi for my editor fairly often. It can take a couple minutes to load, but never as long as you are describing. How solid is your network connection? Do you have good signal strength on your laptop? Is anything else on that wifi router?

I use a static IP for my rack, surface, touch screen, and xDR. But I use DHCP for my laptop.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

Hello Ruidj,

You can setup the system as you describe. You’ll need an ACE card in the PortB slot on both the IDR10 and the IDR48.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

So Just did some testing on stereo channels. Here’s what I found…

When linking two IPs to stereo they maintain their pre-amp settings for gain and pad. If you then adjust the controls of the pre-amp on the stereo IP the individual pre-amps maintain their offset. When you set the stereo IP back to mono IP the pre-amps are both set to what was displayed on the stereo IP’s pre-amp page. Now the really interesting part is that if you do not make any changes to the Stereo IP pre-amp when you set those IPs back to mono they maintain their original pre-amp settings. The strip meter on the stereo IP will always show the level of the highest pre-amp.

Here was my testing procedure

-30db test tone sent to Pre-amp A1 and Pre-amp A2 on my iDR-32.

IP 1 set to Pre-amp A1. IP 2 set to Pre-amp A2. IP 1 pre-amp set to 30db. IP 2 pre-amp set to 20db with pad engaged. Meter on IP 1 showed 0db and the meter on IP 2 set to -10 db. IP 1 and IP 2 set to stereo. Meter on IP 1/2 showed 0db. Pre-amp page showed a setting of 30db. However, on the stereo meter on the pre-amp page the left side showed 0db while the right side showed -10db. IP 1/2 set back to mono. Meter on IP 1 showed 0db and the meter on IP 2 set to -10 db. Pre-amp pages for IP 1 showed 0db. Pre-amp page for IP 2 showed 20db with pad engaged. IP 1 and 2 again set to stereo. Pre-amp for stereo IP 1/2 adjusted up 5 db. Pad engaged and disengaged. Strip meter showed +5 db. Pre-amp stereo meter showed +5 on the left and -5 on the right. Stereo IP 1/2 set back to mono. IP 1 and IP 2 both now showed a gain of 35db with no pad. Both meters read +5.

I then repeated all of the above by using IP 1 at 20db and IP 2 at 30db with the same results.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

I’ll go over to my console and try some experiments on it this afternoon.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

I don’t know what the technical reason is for this limitation to the MixPad. I suspect though that its serious enough that A&H just doesn’t want to spend the resources to add it to a system as old as the iLive. Their focus has been on the GLD then on the QU-16 and I know the iLive 2 is in development. I’d be surprised to see any more major updates to the iLive. By next year I bet we are seeing at least previews of an iLive 2.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

Its a huge problem for me. I use my iPAD for nearly every show. The console is in the balcony and its a pain constantly running between stage and the console. The MixPad is a great app but lack of control of head-amp gain on the xDR is the biggest problem I have with it. I also want scene update/recall, PAFL, FX parameter control, and a way to save strip layout for the MixPad in a scene.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

I believe that the meter shows a mono sum of the L/R. Its a single meter so there’s no way it could show both inputs. It does change based on the stereo setting (in the Pre-Amp page there is a setting for L/R, R/L, L/L, R/R, M/S, etc).

It is my understand that when you link two channels together as one stereo IP their gains are set to the same level. So its not possible to have different gain settings on a Stereo IP.

You can see both sides of the input on a meter if you bring up the Pre-Amp or PEQ screen or Meters screen. The bouncing LED above the strip is a Mono sum though.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

Here are the release notes

https://www.allen-heath.com/UK/Downloads/Pages/iLiveDownload.aspx?CatId=iLiveSeries

Version 1.92 – Maintenance release. October 2013
This release fixes the following issues:
Issue 590 – ME-1 monitor channel stereo linking was incorrect when using the MMO option
card Aviom® output with iLive channel names and stereo link information transmitted to the
ME-U hub via the TCP/IP Network.
Issue 1170, 1002 – Option to sync audio from the modular iLive surface RAB2 Sync Input was
not available when connected to a fixed format iLive MixRack. This option is now available
from the surface and Editor.

Version V1.92 Editor now supports Apple Mac OSX Mavericks 10.9.

[dshriverParticipant]

Its in the GLD forums

iLive or GLD

[dshriverParticipant]

You need to save a scene (use Store All) before you change your mix configuration. Then after the configuration change is done recall that scene. It will bring back all your mix configurations. Deleted busses or new busses won’t recall of course.

-d

[dshriverParticipant]

Hi Jason,

I have an iLive in my venue. I use it several times a week and love the system. I’ve only mixed one time on the GLD so my ability to compare is somewhat limited. The iLive has much more flexibility with input counts. With dual mixracks you can get up to 128 inputs. The ability to use the xDR-16 expander is also extremely nice. The xDR makes for a quick stage box to drop on stage and it also adds the ability to have another card slot. There are a few more features on the iLive, like the multi-band comps, dynamic eq, side chain inputs for gates/comps. It also has a de-esser for each channel.

The big difference is the I/O though. If you are really fine with 48 inputs then frankly I think the GLD is the better value. The GLD is a new system and has faster DSP and a better editor and iPad app.

[dshriverParticipant]

The iLive is looking a bit long in the tooth compared to some of the latest offerings. I’m hoping that A&H is hard at work on the iLive 2.

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