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did you check this?

https://youtu.be/HdjdKRyQcfo

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hope ‘dual-rack’ option for offline editor will be included too
+1

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+1 for ME-1 offline editor.

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New to live systems, but disappointed to know that some important feature are missing:
– there’s an iLive editor which works great online, but can’t do much offline, in ‘dual-rack’ mode. Doesn’t matter if you have iDR MixRack or xDR Expanders.
You can’t prepare a show offline in ‘dual-rack’ mode without being at surface knobs, that’s sad.
– ME-1 offline.
– My iLive console comes with two USB ports but still unable to record the last show for the band.

Please A&H, do something about!

+1 for iLive ‘Dual-Rack’ mode + xDR Expanders offline editor setup.
+1 for ME-1 offline editor,
+1 for USB show recording.

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Last night we tried to make it all over again, but we have started with the iLive default presets; 7_DualRack-FOH existing in library templates.
The whole setup was quite and soft. We follow step by step explanations from the document posted by ddff here, a real guide through whole process, helping us a lot – Thanks a lot!

The main problem in our case was the bridge connection port on the m-ACE card. The Link 1 on port B didn’t respond properly and we didn’t get the reason for that. Even the network signal and lights at Link 1 port B was off. For this reason we pull out the cable from Link 1 (port B) and plugged it to Link 2 (port B). The system displays an error message and ask for cable to be switched back to Link 1 (port B). After few minutes the slave MixRack preamps was detected online.

A major minus which I want to mention here is that in Dual-Rack-Mode setup I’m still unable to insert multiband processing on slave inputs from the Master Rack.
Hope this will be improved soon with the next firmware updates. Thank you for confidence.

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It just sounds crazy. I don’t know what tinnyacks is, but...
sorry about that. It was my mistake so here it is again from Getting Started Guide, down the notes

Channels 1-64 are sourced from the Master MixRack 
(Preamps cannot be mapped across MixRacks).

Thank you very much to you both.
Sorry, I wasn’t able to continue with the setup this weekend, but on Wednesday I will give another try. First, I want to reset both MixRacks and the Surface, then we will start over according to documentation posted by ddff here.
I will come back with the whole story.
Actually on Wednesday I will try to expand another T112 surface along with iDR64 and iDR32 MixRacks one fitted with m-ACE card.
Trying with two iLive systems will give us more confidence.

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Yes, I’ve tried everything according to ‘Getting Start Guide’ but the manual clearly states:
– ‘(Preamps cannot be mapped acrosstinnyacks)’

ddff
Please tell me more about your config. And how did you make it over the software limitation particularly in this instance?
Any pictures or maybe a short video would be more than relevant. I need to hear some feedback from you guys.

p.s. my rep. agreed that in dual-rack mode you can’t do nothing about having two iDR’s. He specified another two xDR units to expand my system to 64 inputs which means another bid and we already get two iDR in place. At the beginning there was no problem with but now we’re locked in with these software restrictions and WHY?

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Thanks ddff,
we got one surface console T112 and two MixRacks (2x iDR32 one with an m-ACE card fitted in MASTER unit), and I patched the inputs this way:

1st iDR32: 1 – 32 (MASTER fitted with m-ACE) used for choir & orchestra
2nd iDR32: 65 – 96 (SLAVE) used on stage for vocals, guitars, drums, brass, and rest of the band inputs.

I like to use all of the 64 inputs from both iDR32 all together at once. The reason for this split is that one iDR is on stage and another about 50 meters away from stage.

At the beginning during the first setup I tried to keep both MixRacks next to the surface console for tests and setup but cannot access the gain for preamps from second iDR.

After patching the inputs between MixRacks, the first iDR was working nice but from second MixRack (slave) didn’t come any audio signal using a condenser mic and was because even the 48V power was off.
I tried patching again each MixRack separate. I set 48V power state ON at each MixRack, tried to set the desired gain preamps again but when I link the system in dual-rack mode the connection becomes lost and the preamps gain become reset to the default values and the 48V power state was OFF again.
Using dynamic mics there was signal presence but no access to gain preamps to set my mics gain levels.

I tried the same with a laptop in AH iLive editor and there is no difference.

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Greetings guys,

here we have:
1x T112
2x 32
1x M-ACE card
Getting Started Guide for iDR-16, 32, 48 and 64 MixRack as main reference

Just bought the iLive system, but we get the first [BIG] disappointment last week after trying hard to setup the second iDR32 via m-ACE card we brought together with the main system, and just find out that there is no way to access the preamps for second iDR32 (SLAVE unit) in ‘Dual-Rack’ mode.
Literally, we can’t use the second iDR32 in ‘Dual-Rack’ mode and the part which really intrigued me was right on page 10, the following note written only down there with tinny small letters:

Note:
• Channels 1-64 are sourced from the Master MixRack
(Preamps cannot be mapped acrosstinnyacks).
• Channels 65-128 are sourced from the Slave
MixRack.
• Surface audio can only be assigned between
channels 1- 64 (connects to Master MixRack).
• Each MixRack processes its own channels 1-64 or
65-128.
• The Master MixRack processes the 32 buses.
• FX may be inserted on Master channels 1-64 only.
• Channels cannot be ganged across MixRacks.
• The Reset Network Settings recessed switch
restores default single MixRack operation.

That being said I have few more questions:
– What’s the meaning of ‘Dual-Rack’ mode setup and where it can be used if the Preamps cannot be mapped acrosstinnyacks?
Let’s say we have two iDR64 for 128 inputs channels config. in ‘Dual-Rack’ mode but can control only 64 preamps from one iDR unit in the system? That’s make no sense; where is the relevance here?
Therefore, with Yamaha system we used before from LS9, M7 to PM5 we were able reach all the preamps linked in the (ethersound based) system. Here should not be the same?

– At Page 3 the same guide pointed right: “Two MixRacks can be linked in Dual-Rack mode to provide 128 input channels”, but how to make it as now I’m unable to get even my 64 preamps from setup mentioned at the beginning?

– Please advice me correct how to get connected to all of the 64 inputs / 32 outs as we have now about 50+ mixes and 26 outs.
2x iDR32, 1x T112 surface and 1x m-ACE card can gain the preamps and processing for all 64 inputs?

Thank you

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