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  • #80793
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    +1

    #80792
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    It could be a lot of data. But you could possibly make a algorithm that makes the calculation. Say: fade from -inf to 0 in 2 seconds. While updating 10 x a second. It would not be that a big an amount of data would it?

    Atleast it would be a nice feature. And it is one I´m missing (Coming from Avid, Digico, Soundcraft, etc.)

    Say you go to a cue, a fader is going from -inf to 0 in a 20 sec fade.
    At -20db you notices it is going to be too high, and will cause harm to allot of the people in the audience.
    Your only option now, is to either: Mute the channel, take another fader(master fader).

    If you touch, and take down your fader that is moving towards 0, it will jump to 0, before you can take it down to -20db.

    This is really annoying. why not make the faders follow all the fades too?

    In my oppinion it should have been implemented from the start… But would at least be nice to get it in an update.

    Cheers,
    Benjamin

    #80791
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    The problem is still there when you are in your current cue list. And press the “new” Scene function. If you then go to a different cue in the cuelist. You are racing to a needle in the haystack situation where you need to find the cue you just created. (As you could do in a hectic production situation.) At least at the rehearsal period in a theatre show, with hundreds of scene cues. You often need add a scene, because there is always being made changes. and you then have a all scenes list with an irregular scenes numeration.

    cue 1, could be scene 1 ,
    cue 2 – Scene 2,
    cue 3 – scene 40,
    cue 4 – scene 3,
    cue 5 -scene 25,
    cue 6 scene 100.

    And because don’t have the “insert new scene” function. You also end up with having to sort it like this:

    1. You need a new cue, in the following cue. But the following cue list need to continue without taking any effect.
    2. You press the “new” scene function.
    3. You need to go too the All Scenes tab.
    4. You now need to find the cue. It could be at scene 174 or what ever is the next free scene. (While you actually are creating 34.2)
    5. You need to rename the cue.
    6. You need to go too the Cue list editor tab.
    7. You now need import the cue you created to the Current Cue List into the right spot at your current cue list.
    8. You can continue the show.
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    This is time consuming, and hectic to do while in a show or at a rehearsal with several actors waiting on you… You have no way to do this without having the time to sort the que right after creating it. If you just press the “new” while running a rehearsal or a show, without stopping and sorting. You can end up creating all sorts of que all over your all Scenes list. You then need to use a lot of time afterwards to find out when and where you actually created the cue, why and so on. (Say you have 100 scenes. and while running the show, you find out that you need to add scenes at different places. Say you then end up with having added 20 scenes. After the show you now have 100 scenes in a correct order, then you have scene 101-120, thats not in the correct order. And is not marked or named in a way that makes it easy to place in the cue list, and you need to use a lot of time to do so.)

    If Allen & Heath could make the “New” Scene function automatically import the newly created scene cue, to your current cue list.
    OR make another “Insert new scene” function. That does this. (That is: in the between the your active cue, and your current next cue.)

    The workflow would shorten, and make it possible to have a more fluent workflow. You can then make scenes and cues on the fly, without having to stop while doing so.

    You can work more like this:

    1. You need a new cue, in the following cue. but the following cue list need to continue without taking any effect.
    2. You press the “new” scene function/press the “Insert New Scene” function.
    3. You continue the show.

    4. After the show/rehersal you can rename and sort the cue etc. because it is already placed where you need it in your cue list.

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    You now not only have the scene directly where you want it, but you have it fast. And you can do it on the fly. This solves the whole insert function in my opinion, and should be a priority in the future. We theatre technicians would love this!

    #80756
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    This is a useful and needed way to work, its a must while in a rehearsal setting at a theatre. Or while in a show, and you need to make adjustments to following ques later in the show on the fly, while playing a different song! A really needed feature!

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