[AndyCZParticipant]

Hi Glen,

How are you operating the scene recall? ie, from the Scene Manager page, or via MIDI?

[AndyCZParticipant]

I specialise in theatre, so my usual setup is as followsL:

Left hand bank: Inputs

Usually the top two layers for radio mics, the bottom two for band/orchestra (or a expansion/contraction of this arrangement depending on the requirement)

Middle bank, top layer: Any fader that is pertinent to the current scene, eg radio mics, DCAs, PC playback, etc.

Middle bank layer B: DCAs – Usually split into Drums, Backline, Reed section, Brass section, Strings, Keyboards. Then a DCA master for all music, and one for all vocals.

Middle bank layer C: FX sends
Middle bank layer FX returns

Right hand bank, top layer: Main outs (LR, LCR or LCRSub) plus recording group splits

Right hand bank remaining layers: Aux outs

My workflow thus is left to right on the surface. From scene to scene, the only things I usually change are fader levels, mutes, panning, DCA assingments and Fader Strip assignments.

[AndyCZParticipant]

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Andy , there needs to be no midi connection at all for you to test the iLive’s scene recall.
Only after you have made sure it all works as it should and that the scenes” behave” should you proceed by adding more and more components.

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I think that’s fairly obvious! [:p]

Probably not made this clear – the sending of the MIDI ‘All notes off’ command is what causes the error in the first place. Then, scene recall will work erroneously as described in my original post,
irrespective of whether the MIDI lead is connected or not.

[AndyCZParticipant]

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I must admit to being more than a little sadden at this response……scene crossfades have been implemented on nearly every digital consoles since the advent of the venerable 02R, even the analog midas XL4 had 0 to 10 seconds scene crossfades, 20 yrs ago!!!!! Aside from the much needed multiband compressor and the ability to mute/unmute individual EQ bands I fail to see what other feature could be more necessary that the scene x fade.

It would seem that A&H, with the introduction of the gld, have clearly set their goals to compete with the likes of the m7cl or ls9 crowd leaving the higher end users with little to celebrate……While I enjoy mixing on my iLive system, I find myself jealous of competitors’ (Digico ) rapidly increasing feature sets and scene implementation…….Unlike other posters I do not care for the need to mix with an iphone, ipad or other gadget, and while I am well aware of the iLive’s cross market appeal and A&H ‘s need to please the lower end user as well as the seasoned pros, I need pro gear, and that, includes scene fades…..

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Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[AndyCZParticipant]

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unfortunately this has not been a feature that is high up on the request list

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Loads of people are asking for this to be included – for theatre use it’s almost essential. Every other digital console I’ve used has this feature already.

[AndyCZParticipant]

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The first thing to check is whether or not the scene recall works ok without midi connected

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No – when using the scene recall from scene manager, it still causes the error.

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although this sounds like midi loop back……

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I know what you mean, although in this instance the only MIDI connection is from the RME Fireface UFX into the T112.

I’ll have a try with the Snoize monitor, cheers for that.

[AndyCZParticipant]

Cheers Richard, I’ll check on that when I have the system up and running tomorrow, and report back.

[AndyCZParticipant]

+1 more for timed crossfades. On the show I’m touring at the moment, one routine is split into four scenes on the surface, to enable the performers onstage to be panned left/right so that their position in the stereo image matches their position onstage.

At the moment, I have to be careful about where to cue the change as the voice will jump from one side of the stage to the other!

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