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2012/02/20 at 8:57 am #23052
My vocalist has a harmoniser (VoiceLive 2) that I need to connect as an external effect unit. She will be the only input (mono mic), and the output will be stereo.
I’ve achieved this by setting a direct out on the vocal mic into the unit, and a stereo input back from the unit, mapped to the main bus.
Are there other/better ways to do this? In the manual there is some discussion of FX short/long returns, but I didn’t fully understand. Is a long return what I need?
Rob
2012/02/20 at 4:20 pm #29494Rob,
The short returns are dedicated returns for the 8 onboard FX. So basically you can use the OB FX without eating any of the 64 channel strips available. You can return the OB FX through channel strips (long)if desired as well. That will give you the full processing capabilities of a channel strip. The short returns provide a parametric and Dynamic FX which gives some ducking or gating.
I don’t believe you can return any external inputs through the short returns.
Hope this helps!
Scott
iDR 32
iDR D-Out
MMO
Lenova T61, M90, iPad22012/02/20 at 4:55 pm #29496quote:
Originally posted by blackrobMy vocalist has a harmoniser (VoiceLive 2) that I need to connect as an external effect unit. She will be the only input (mono mic), and the output will be stereo.
I’ve achieved this by setting a direct out on the vocal mic into the unit, and a stereo input back from the unit, mapped to the main bus.
Are there other/better ways to do this? In the manual there is some discussion of FX short/long returns, but I didn’t fully understand. Is a long return what I need?
Rob
Think of the short/long returns in terms of latency…..short = the shortest signal route possible, as it is internal this will also achieve the shortest latency. Long is the longest route for your signal since it has to go through the ad/da process a few times and therefore will induce longer latency.
For external processing you could use iLive’s inserts function (press sel on a strip).
RayS
R-72/iDR32/iPS10
2012/02/20 at 6:18 pm #29497quote:
Originally posted by sraymondThe short returns are dedicated returns for the 8 onboard FX. So basically you can use the OB FX without eating any of the 64 channel strips available. You can return the OB FX through channel strips (long)if desired as well. That will give you the full processing capabilities of a channel strip. The short returns provide a parametric and Dynamic FX which gives some ducking or gating.
I don’t believe you can return any external inputs through the short returns.
Hope this helps!
Scott
Thanks Scott. Sounds like I’m doing something reasonable!
2012/02/20 at 6:21 pm #29498quote:
Originally posted by RaySThink of the short/long returns in terms of latency…..short = the shortest signal route possible, as it is internal this will also achieve the shortest latency. Long is the longest route for your signal since it has to go through the ad/da process a few times and therefore will induce longer latency.
For external processing you could use iLive’s inserts function (press sel on a strip).
RayS
R-72/iDR32/iPS10
I see. The unit has digital IO. Would it be a good idea to try and get this working?
2012/02/20 at 6:57 pm #29499quote:
Originally posted by blackrobquote:
Originally posted by RaySThink of the short/long returns in terms of latency…..short = the shortest signal route possible, as it is internal this will also achieve the shortest latency. Long is the longest route for your signal since it has to go through the ad/da process a few times and therefore will induce longer latency.
For external processing you could use iLive’s inserts function (press sel on a strip).
RayS
R-72/iDR32/iPS10
I see. The unit has digital IO. Would it be a good idea to try and get this working?
You could use the spdif i/o from the surface as inserts sends and returns.
RayS
R-72/iDR32/iPS10
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