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2013/05/22 at 10:55 pm #34027
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Originally posted by greywizardSo in terms of the model ‘T’ vs modular regular iLive 112, what/when are the situation that eiher model might be better suited? in terms of cost as well, which one is the better choice? I am thinking of Dante card on the iDr 16 ……
I think you should spend some time reading the A&H info pages. 100% of what you are asking is available there.
Do you need preamps on the surface? Then your only option is to go modular.
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
Austin Federa, Lawrence University
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/05/22 at 3:36 pm #34022quote:
Originally posted by greywizardhey guys I am thinking of going digital. What are the pro’s and cons of using either model. I am thinking of the Ilive 112. i need recording
(at least 10 multitracks @ 96Khz)capability so a dante card + iDr 16 is my starting point. I would need to use it through a router and control it through iLive editor or iPad app. Any help or advice is appreciated.How do the preamps respond to high screams and the compressor section as well….as stated before 48k “only” (which is still plenty)
Preamps have huge headroom. Sound exceptional as well.
Compressor is quite powerful, you won’t get an EL-8 out of any onboard digital compressor, but you get pretty darn close, better than the built-in i’ve heard on other consoles. Yes, Venue has full plugin support, but until they migrate to AAX I still think the iLive compressor sounds betteriDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
Austin Federa, Lawrence University
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/05/20 at 5:32 pm #34006quote:
Originally posted by JuergHi College
Have a look at the release notes of V1.91. This update seems to fix your problem.
Cheers
JuergIDR32, R-72, M-DANTE, MacBook Pro
Ha ha,
Will do, didn’t want to do an update on a possibly corrupt system, hence checking first.iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
Austin Federa, Lawrence University
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/05/14 at 4:06 pm #33962quote:
Originally posted by simonstpauliCan we have a console lock screen that leaves one fader operational? So that anybody can control walk in music level for instance.
Christian Tepfer
Hamburg, GermanyConsole lock + iTweak is the best current solution to this
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/29 at 11:03 pm #33855Are you talking about a brick-wall limiter, or a measurement microphone that will adjust output based on room volume?
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/24 at 8:50 pm #33814If that’s your setup well done gates could accomplish this too, but mute or dca is also an option
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/23 at 11:59 pm #33810quote:
Originally posted by pngaudioguyAll,
I don’t have the luxury of having a monitor engineer, so dual-hat as FOH + monitors for my work. I discovered the other day that when I turn off a channel in the main mix, it’s still live in the aux sends (monitors) in the default configuration of the pre-fader aux send. I looked through the iLive and iDR guides, but couldn’t seem to find anything about how to configure an aux to be pre-fader, but post-on.
Naturally, I want the monitors to have a separate mix, but when I turn off the channel, I don’t want it to go to any of the monitors, either, so post-fader is clearly not what I want. There’s lots of choices for after EQ, after comp, after gate, after limiter, after… Which setting do I need to use to accomplish what I’m looking for?
Thanks in advance,
CS
I think you might (possibly) be doing monitors wrong? You should only have what you need in the monitors, their sends can be managed via scenes too if needed. Also hit mix on a channel and just knock that out of the monitors.
I mix monitors from foh all the time and I never have this issue
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/19 at 5:08 am #33756quote:
Originally posted by jgroomsI am having trouble even understanding the iLive’s place in the A&H product lineup these days.
With zero inside knowledge of A&H, I would bet pretty hard they’re well aware of this
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/15 at 5:46 pm #33732quote:
Originally posted by frozenwafflesHi, has anyone used these switched yet for their iLive/ACE networks or Dante networks?
https://www.linkusa-inc.com/Portals/0/Digital%20Audio/DGLinkTouringSwitches.pdf
We are wanting to invest, im just not sure if they are 100% compatible. they look it…Current stock:
2x T112, 1x T80, 2x R72, 2x iDR-48, 3x iDR-16, 2x xDR-16
4x Dante Cards, 3x ACE CardsShould work fine, requirements are met, ACE is pretty easy from a protocol perspective.
How much are they? You could always just buy an Ethercon Patch Bay and use the GS724T, which is fully Dante compliant
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/11 at 3:36 pm #33702I understand where some of ya are coming from with the ‘wouldn’t it be great if it was just a cheaper ilive with ace and card slots’ but let’s be real, the fact it has a dSnake port is even amazing. The add-in cards for iLive and GLD cost more than half the price of the Qu-16, and the most basic mixrack costs 2.5x the console….
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College
https://dimmercheck.blogspot.com2013/04/03 at 1:57 pm #33632quote:
Originally posted by SylvesterHow about regular off the shelf affordable ones? I might be pushing it, but i was kinda hoping of being able to find a 4-6 port switch below 100$ that could do what i needed it to do..
“If ya can’t afford it ya don’t need it” adage applies here. $240 is dirt cheap for what you are trying to do. You could certainly try a dumb switch, some say it works fine, but your setup is more complicated, which is where the managed and priority based filtering becomes useful.
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College2013/04/02 at 6:07 pm #33626Dante is adaptable:
Dante will run on a standard switch
Dante SHOULD run on a managed switch, where you can set priority for its traffic (VOIP) as well as time sync, etc. Most professional switches do this ( Cisco SG300, Cisco SG200, Netgear GS724T configured as shown here https://us.focusrite.com/rednet-ethernet-switch-requirements)Dante IDEALLY would need an AVB compliant switch. Their technojargen there basically spells out AVB compliant. AVB consists of the following technologies automatically configured for you out of the box, auto-synced, and auto-managed. BSS makes a version of the netgear GS724T with a special AVB firmware, but it costs 6x what the normal switch costs.
IEEE 802.1AS: Timing and Synchronization for Time-Sensitive Applications (gPTP),
IEEE 802.1Qat: Stream Reservation Protocol (SRP),
IEEE 802.1Qav: Forwarding and Queuing for Time-Sensitive Streams (FQTSS), and
IEEE 802.1BA: Audio Video Bridging SystemsBut dante AVB implementation is really targeted at large facility installs, and massive distribution systems. It would most likely be overkill for what you are trying to do.
I would strongly recommend you go with a GS724T, work beautifully for our RedNet setup.
There’s more info on Dante topology here https://support.labgruppen.com/attachments/token/tschqsxhklztxka/?name=AUD-ANO-Recommended+Network+Topologies.pdf
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Originally posted by SylvesterHi all,
I seem to be running in circles while trying to get the facts about how to get ilive editor on the same network as Dante.Here is the setup as i want it:
1) iDR48 with Dante card. (of course)
2) 1st computer on-stage with backtracks to iDR via Dante
3) 2nd computer on-stage that multitrack records 33+ channels from Dante
4) 3rd computer in FOH with iLive Editor which streams PFL from DanteNow, as i can see, we need a Gigabit switch that “…should support Diffserv (DSCP) Quality of Service (QoS) with strict priority and 4 queues, as these features are used to prioritize clock sync and audio traffic over other network data. Although some users found it was working with standard Gigabit switches, a list of recommended devices is available on the Audinate website.”
…The thing is, that the list at audinates website is not to be found, so i am pretty much lost.
Anyone that has a specific product recommendation they would like to share?Best regards
SylvesteriDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College2013/03/30 at 11:12 pm #33611quote:
Originally posted by millstI have noticed the following issue on my idr32 recently.
My Idr16 and IDR10 do not seem to have the same issue.IDR32 has an AES board fitted.
If the IDR32 loses power, when it comes back on. It is not in the same state as when it powered. The physical outputs are not assigned to the same busses as they were before the power cycle. Nothing else has changed. It’s just the output assignment.
I do not have a scene set to recall on power up.
Any ideas?
Is this related to the AES card?I’m running 1.9 with a Dante card.
I know with some other brands of consoles there’s basically a watch battery inside that keeps the exact current settings stored during a power failure, not sure if iLive works this way though.
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College2013/03/26 at 3:02 pm #33576quote:
Originally posted by tspad19602) Possibly an additional display same type as the virtual write-on strip above the channel strip which displays the channel name of the selected channel in a large font.
+1 very practical. Think ETC Expression 3 style
iDR-48, T-112, Mixpad
College2013/03/13 at 4:36 pm #33440Hi Karl,
I’m not sure about your alt view, mine does show it I believe. What firmware version is your console?
The output screen should give you something like this, where you can see what is patched to the outputs
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123.03 KBIf you want to upload your show file I could take a look at it and try and sort some of this out. Is it possible your mains are being fed by matrix outs?
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