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2014/08/07 at 11:51 am #41285
The AR (and now AB) AudioRacks are probably essential items when considering a GLD system as the mixers have only a handful of I/O connections on the rear panel. The QU mixers all have the full complement of XLR mic preamps on the back, many people will plug direct into these or use existing copper snakes and sub-boxes. Of course it’s sometimes advantageous to be able to hook up via cat5 for remote I/O too! in which case being able to use the A&H AudioRack inventory is a cool feature of the QU range but I wouldn’t directly compare prices against the QU mixers alone. Being able to plug in ME-1 personal monitors to the dSnake port on a QU is also worth considering in terms of your investment in A&H technology as it can handle all the inputs and mixes of the QU in a single cable.
2014/07/29 at 1:20 pm #41124You can use input channel libraries to recall settings for different users / instruments etc but that could get labor-intensive for a drum-kit so another possibility is to reserve a bunch of scenes for the purpose instead. create the scenes to contain only the relevant input channels e.g. Drums = ch1 thru ch10, bass scenes are always ch11,12 etc. keep some of each type as ‘default’
that way you can recall a particular Drummer or kit by scene name and it will do all channels needed. same for changes, simply update the ‘maple kit’ scene or ‘bass-player with pick’ scene as needed.
certain regularly used combinations of default / saved scenes could be combined into a ‘Save-all’ scene for instantaneous recall of complete setups. you have 250 scenes to play with. All 250 scenes plus the mixer config get saved as a showfile and its this that you can export to a USB drive. saving / updating scenes and shows does not interrupt the audio. you can then work on the showfile on your PC or Mac Editor offline if desired.
MixRack and surface do not have to be on the same AC circuit (as recommended for an analogue snake system), UPS is always good if you can afford it, especially if you have ‘critical audio I/O at FOH, I would recommend a backup iPS10 PSU for the DSP brain if nothing else.
USB record / playback will not happen on iLive – hundreds of iLive users use Dante with a DAW to capture and replay up to 64 channels of audio.
iLive isn’t really intended to be used with mouse and keyboard – hook up a laptop and use editor to name / colour / move channels freely as an alternative to the surface screen. iPads are for saving shoe-leather and making adjustments on the fly in location (eg stood next to the drummer’s mix wedge). Editor on wifi laptop does more detail but needs two paws.2014/07/25 at 9:19 am #41037The ‘Mix Library’ is for the settings of the mix master output channel (eq, processing, etc).
you need to use Scenes to save and recall different monitor mixes for the band.
The easiest way to do this is to create a ‘store all’ scene once you have the basic mixer set up.
then for each song where you have different settings in the iems you use store all to create additional scenes (give them names as per the song etc). then edit out of these scenes all the items you dont want affecting by a scene recall or / and set ‘scene safes’ to isolate channels globally from inadvertent changes. its usually the send levels, mutes, FX units etc that get changed song by song. if you are mixing FOH from the same mixer too then you can use these scenes to control elements of the PA mix if you want.2014/06/10 at 9:33 am #40137Even if you could get audio on the iPad the signal would have too much latency to be usable
have you considered using a headphone amp such as
https://www.thomann.de/gb/wired_in_ear_monitors.html
its just one cable back to the mixer – lot less hassle and expense than Wireless IEMs2014/05/29 at 1:39 pm #39979Hi tophfro
Yes you can: fit an MMO (Mini Multi Out) card to the option slot on the MixRack. You can connect one or two iDR Outs via cat5 runs of up to 250m! – very handy for delay towers or distant amp rooms.
Download the user guide for the breakout box here https://www.allen-heath.com/series/idr-input-output-expanders/
there is also an AES / sdpif version too if that helps.
The MMO option card info is here: https://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/mini-multi-out/HTH
A&H UK2014/05/20 at 11:09 am #39843Hi bob274.
not quite clear whether you needed to free up XLR output sockets, or Aux sends in the GLD. Either way you went digital.
did you assign Aux mix outs onto dSnake? or did you opt for channel direct outs or mic splits [dSnake inputs]?I notice the P-16I has ADAT in 1-8, 9-16. you dont say how far the console is from the musos but A&H do a an MMO card with ADAT out that can be fitted to the GLD rear. You could send mic pre, channel DIs, mixes, whatever you want out via ADAT into your monitor system. If your GLD is at FOH and the AR2412 onstage I can see why you might want to use the monitor port to link into your stations. introducing an additional third party converter box has its complications! GLD monitor out can be compatible with Avion A-16 stations – not too sure about their hubs!
Any chance you could try out our ME-1 stations sometime – you would get the added benefit of channel names appearing on the stations. up to 40ch (e.g. all you mic splits or channels), custom sub-grouping per station and backlit LCD display!2014/02/14 at 10:30 am #37738Assign the FX return to ‘long’ channel inputs (from the rear panel of the FX)
Then you can patch those channel direct outs to port-B for your recording and still have them available to mix with.
on the Slave rack of course these signals will be coming in to port-A which can then be routed to the Dante card.
remember to check the options for the global direct out settings [MixRack / Preferences].2014/02/06 at 2:08 pm #37634Hi allanbranson
It’s not clear to me if the iDR10 was already working in DualRack mode with Muti Digital Out card in two of the 10 I/O slots and the iDR32 connected as slave rack?
Check to see what is supposed to be routed out of the 16 outputs on those two slots of the iDR are they still there?
The iDR8 IP doesnt come into it unless its on a network for remote control – typically as a stand-alone unit it should be set to DHCP off.
you say the iDR just stops working when you plug in the cat5 linking it to the ilive Multi Digial Out, are you saying it works fine passing local audio and being controlled by editor but crashes when the digital audio IN link is connected?
You may need to open a support ticket for this one but if you could clarify the above I can suggest some diagnostics. it could be handy to gather serial numbers, event logs, and showfile for the iLive setup in readiness.2014/02/03 at 12:28 pm #37584Hi lithiumfun
Start off by naming the DSP ‘input’ channels of the GLD mixer e.g. channel 1 = ‘Kick’, channel 12 = ‘keysL’ etc
remember you do not have to display the input channels in numerical sequence across the GLD surface, they can be arranged by drag n drop however you want on a song by song basis if needed (using scenes)
physical sockets are then patched to each input, either singly or in a range. on a standard setup these would probably be the XLR inputs on the AudioRack on stage, but of course a source for a channel could equally be a socket on the rear of the mixer, a digital input from the multi-channel I/O option card, an FX return, USB, or a Mix etc [all selected from the input patchbay].
example: if physical XLR socket named IP23 on the AR2412 is where you want to plug the bass guitar into and label it accordingly, then highlight that socket on the I/O screen, then select input channels on the drop-down list and dial through them using the rotary until you get to the ‘bass’ and apply. That socket [23] is now labelled bass on screen and you can go ahead and put a market on the stage box. The ‘input channel’ for the bass may be completely different [e.g. ch 7]I hope this helps?
With iLive and GLD it is important to realise that a channel strip [inc an ‘input’] has has a patch-bay at the front end not necessarily a dedicated socket like an analogue console has.2014/02/03 at 11:25 am #37583Toby, did you have the iLive network bridged to the ME-U to get the names?
2014/01/13 at 9:38 am #37231If you don’t need all the inputs 1-40 then you can cross-patch on the I/O screen:
Monitor tab, select any ME channel, choose input 41 in the drop down – if you want a range then choose the end channel, you will see the ‘sockets’ being highlighted. Press apply. you now have channels #41 and above in your ME system. As Jeff says you can only have 40ch at any one time in ME, but you could have different patches in scenes / shows on the GLD and also recall different setups on the ME.2014/01/07 at 1:49 pm #37128The A&H LedLamp [straight or right-angled] will be fine in Qu-16
generally, all lamps designed for consoles with the 4-pin XLR connector should be interchangeable2014/01/07 at 1:36 pm #37127nearly there! set the Slave MixRack port-A outputs starting at ch #33 to be MixRack inputs or Channel direct outs as you want.
on the Master port-B patch [which will include the MMO] select range of 1-24 [for the ADAT outs], then for the source, select ACE LINK from the dropdown [i.e. the returns from the Slave rack via port-A] and dial up ch #33-56 as the range.
hopefully you now have whatever is in your slave mixrack inputs / channels #65-88 etc heading towards your recorder.NOTE: you have to use ‘Redundancy Off: In1-64 from Link1’ option for Master ACE port-B. this does mean you will not be able to receive inputs from the xDR-16. hope this is OK?
I wonder whether you would be more suited to a 2nd xDR16 instead of running DualRack? maybe 16 XLR inputs [plus its port-B i/o] isn’t enough which is why you went for an iDR32?2014/01/06 at 12:15 pm #37107Make sure that Port B ‘Redundant mode’ is set to ‘OFF’ in ‘Mixer Preferences’, ‘Port A/B’.
the master port-B channels feed the xDR so choose ACE ch 1-24 as the patch for the xDR port-B [MMO] ADAT outs.
then select the source for the Master port-B ACE channels as needed [e.g. MixRack inputs / channel direct outs etc]. The Slave iDR32 channels begin at #65. Remember to look at your global direct option settings as they affect what you’ll get over ADAT (pre /post processing / mute / fader etc).2013/12/23 at 9:34 am #36971Yes, Gil is correct. usually you send ‘MixRack Inputs’ to the Dante network for recording (i.e. Mic Pre splits). but obviously the XLRs on the surface are not in the MixRack! – for these inputs you have to choose ‘Channel Direct Outs’ and set the global direct out preferences to pre-fade pre-processing etc
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