[LKParticipant]

@gcumbee:
You were of course NOT invaliding my arguments. I didnt supposed you not to know how a matrix works, but Lou.

@Lou:
That wasnt meant nasty, it was an assumption because of the idea to use postfader Mix instead of a matrix.

Sorry to you both guys – it wasnt my intention to insult you.

I was a little upset about Bobs statement and english is obviously not my first language – sorry for that!

[LKParticipant]

In practice I sometimes use the masterfader for level-control. Not the channelfader. That´s why sometimes I cant see if someone is grabbing one of lets say 6 or 8 Wireless-Mics and cant identifiy it fast and clearly. If I want to control the level really fast – master is the best way. The broadcast guy is not so delighted of this – of course, becuase of shift of level of ambient noise for example.

You can argue “dont do this” etc etc
Im payed for best live sound and so I do at my best.

A matrix pre-master-fader is in my opinion the best choice for press feeds.

Yes I CAN give them Alt out, or a main-split – of course – thats not the main problem.

A delay in Alt out would really help, but give me EQ too please – tomorrow I have a nearfill with an other type of speaker….for example
-> so give me a Matrix and Im happy.

I DO loop it to ST input – thats the way I work at the moment.

But I dont like it:
1. I dont like the extra cable
2. Im afraid of accidently feed the input to main and cause a “hardware-feedback”

Basically:
Why are you trying to invalidate my arguments.
Its an individual thing.
Yes – I can do everything I need (thats the reason I bought the mixer) but give me a Matrix and Id be really happy! 😉

@Lou:

Sorry, I dont think you understood how exactly a matrix works.

A matrix takes the signal from an output – “main” is the most important.
And in ideal case i can choose it to be pre/post main-fader.

Main-EQ for example effects the matrix. Thats not possible in your scenario.

Matrices would ease my work – believe it or not – for any reaosn the QU-24 and 32 HAVE matrices – think about it!
Why – if nobody needs it?

@gcumbee:
I dont have so much pressfeeds, its just one example.
Nearfills AND delaylines AND pressfeeds can all be done really good with matrices in my personal opinion and workflow.

Thanks!

[LKParticipant]

Thanks for your reply.

No, I dont think its an “overkill”:

Theres a (big) world beside the typical Live-Band-Show.

I got often a situation likes this:
A handful Wireless-Mics for discussion/presentation for example and a Stereo-Input (Keynote)
(typical industrial job)

The venue needs a delay-line an there is a secondray-room the audio-signal should be transmitted to.
(Or a broadcast company would like to have a audio signal)

I often got really really little space for my gear. (Best thing to keep it all behind presentation-screen or in a niche)

Why should I use a bigger desk? 16 Channles are more than enough an I got 19″ rack-dimension – PERFECT!

I do jobs like these nearly every week.

I want to have “hardware-faders” – I did “racked” processing in the past (iLive Mixrack)
I had sometimes trouble loosing Wifi-connection (venues with much Wifi-traffic)

For this reason I want to have a “manual” backup that allows quick access to faders to avoid feedback and so on.
(Thats my experience over years as an full-time tech)

I dont think it would be “very hard” to give us the feature of a Matrix instead of a Aux-Mix.
I would pay for it, I would even buy other hardware, but the main features (dimensions, fader quantity, usability, sound,…) of the QU-16 are really perfect for my usage.

So I think its legit to express my desire of a matrix/ matrices, I know there are many other guys with the same desire!

(I know there are workarounds because I use them, but they are little annoying, its a thing that should be able to be implemented with a relative simple firmware update)

Thanks for your attention!

[LKParticipant]

Matrix would be so great on QU-16. (instead of some Mixes)

Please do it, it would be outstanding helpful.

I would pay for it, but i don’t want a larger desk!

Thanks for your attention!

Nearly every job I miss this feature!
I workaround with analog looping Main to Inputs or do it with post-Aux.

Both sucks. Second solution I got no post-Main possibility!

Please give it to us! 😉

[LKParticipant]

+1 +1 +1 +1 to “stereo to mix”

I´ve got two QU-16 and I love them, but the thing I really really miss is a Matrix.
Every second job (many industrial / gala jobs) I miss a Matrix.
(to simple add a Delay-Line, Center Speaker or separate Main for Subs eg)

Pls give us the possibilty to route the main-mix to an Aux (mono or stereo, both would be cool; post preferred, pre/post would be cool but not necessary)

Would be soooooo helpful for me!!!!

Can’t be so difficult!?!

I would pay for it, no problem, but I dont want an QU-24 or bigger because of its dimensions!!!!

[LKParticipant]

Good idea!

[LKParticipant]

+1 De-Esser – would be so helpful!
THX!

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