[Julian TinaoParticipant]

Isn’t this the same as using a SoftKey to load a specific scene and programing those changes in the scene ? Given that the scenes can store almost every setting of the desk, and you can easily program the individual recall filter, I dont know if I missing something but I find diffcult to think anything I could not do with this method instead.

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

If you use the “internal network bridge” of the dante card switch on. Then you will have the dlive control acces from the dante card ports. So with 1 cable on the dante card you have both connections.
Also will have dante control on the gigaAce ports, BUT the gigaAce connection will filter the audio part of dante, you will have dante controller working, but no audio passing.

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

Loic

Hi!, now, that was a good answer. That was a smart test !!! Thanks for taking the time and effort to discover this !!

I think 30secs is not the best but at least it IS saving, wich had me troubled.
Thanks

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

+1

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

This is old. But I support this isue, what M Van Houten says is relatable. And the solution is really simple ( the fact he could solve the issue using an excel sheet proves that, but he sould not need to do all that for such a simple matter).
The solution is really simple, in the recall safes there should be two different buttons, one for “pre amp patch” and other for “gain”.
Obviously when you change patch, the gain value will move with the pre amp.
But in a festival situation, you could recall your scene, move the patch to the festival patch, put a recall safe just for the “patch” (not the gain value), and recall the scene again. Now the patch will stay the same, but the gain per channel will be recalled.
Most of the times in a festival situation, you use the “same preamp type” you used in your scene, but just in a different channel order, so being able to do this is really helpful, and can even be a life saver if have almost cero sound check time …

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

People, here is the test in video I had to do proving my point.

As you can see in the video, if you make a change and lose power, the change will be lost when power up.
If someone upload a video doing the same test and behaving any different I will take my TWO NEW DM0 to service. But I doubt any of you really tested what I’m talking here…
Until that, can we continue discussing this feature ?

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

+1 an adding a 31 graphic eq possibility also to be inserted on channel

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

On the shure side everything is ok, because we are using shure workbench perfectly if i connect directly to the switcher. But even the workbench cannot find the devices if I connect to the other side of the gigaAce conection.

The route is :
Shure device > switcher > dante card on mixrack i/o port > main gigaAce to surface > notebook connected on network port of surface.

Notebook directly to the switcher everything is ok, but a notebook connected on the surface network cannot find any device on workbench, and the desk find the devices but with the limitations explained before.

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

Of course I’m NOT pressing the power down button!! I’m forcing a “wrong power loss”. If I’m powering down the desk I will save the scene. The problem is what happens when you “lose power” the bad way, in the middle of something happening.
Everyone is giving opinions, but no one did the test, I assure you there is a timeframe at least, in wich if you made some changes and lose power right after (on the mixrack obviously), the changes will not be there after boot up again.

I did not try it without a surface, I’m doing my test with a surface connected, but I doubt that changes anything.

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

I don’t have a mixrack start up scene. Do the test, you will surprise. Or maybe I need to send my dm0 to service …
If I change some levels and some eq just before forcing power down, the changes will not be there on the next power up. Maybe there is some time for the internal autosave function. But it is certainly not saving instant changes with a few seconds of difference. Will try waiting a little longer on the test, but forcing a power down like 15 seconds after a change will end in loosing the changes.

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

If you go both directions with dvs usually mess up the latency. A daw with a virtual card is usually configured with 20ms of buffer or something like that of you are just recording, or just using playback, that buffer does not matter, it works as a buffer for the daw to keep the audio stable. When you go in AND out to dante, now those 20ms needs to keep track with the dante latency wich could be 0.5ms or 1ms. Even 5ms setting on dante wich is A LOT, is still not enough to compensate the 20ms that a daw can insert to the chain. And even lowering the daw buffer maybe not enough, as achieving 4ms latency on a daw recording multiple channels with a virtual sound card is not always stable…
The solution is not go in both directions. Try to avoid that. If you need to listen, use another device as end of chain for listening. But not the mixing desk.

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

What exactly do you need ? Because you can do on/off softkey a channel now. And most of the settings that are an “on/off” can be switched with soft keys, they even show the state with the led. What function exactly are you missing ?

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

Dont know what you call “last state”. But it is certainly not working well. Do your test, save a scene, then move some eq, then force a power loss. Restart and the last eq change will not be there.
Should I report this as a bug ?

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

+1

[Julian TinaoParticipant]

+1 – This is a MUST in my opinion. Can’t believe A&h top tier console can’t do this.

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