[funkcityParticipant]

Is Automixing planned for the Qu mixers?

[funkcityParticipant]

Thanks Nicola!!
It would be PERFECT for the church I’ve installed with a Qu-16!!
No dedicated mixing person and lots of open mics!
I have used the Yamaha MY16 module before and it made a 10 Lavalier-mic panel interview flawless.

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Bob
That is yet a 3rd way but it lets you know you have altered the level of the grouped members.
Interesting. Nice idea!

[funkcityParticipant]

Well it seems Digico solves the preference problem by offering
Control groups being user selectable to:
“VCA style” (group faders do not move but an offset is imposed on the grouped faders for gain manipulation) or
“Moving Fader style” as you might see on Flying Faders system. The Master moves and the slaves also move.

[funkcityParticipant]

This has been working for many years in the Yamaha DM100 and DM2000 mixers.
I used a Windows XP Pro and used MADI cards and usb Mackie Control protocol ind it was flawless.
I ran Nuendo with it.
It would be a great additional implementation

[funkcityParticipant]

Agreed. The current configuration is quite powerful.
But having worked on analog desks and digital desks from
Neve, SSL, Flying Faders and such, those VCA faders had significant limitations as you illustrate, but the concept of the group of faders being controlled was easily seen by the ACTUAL movement of the faders. If zero was where the master was parked, or -5 0r -10, you knew you could boost the group 10, 15 or 20 dB respectively. Its just something that was natural. But I see your point.

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Thanks Bob
I’ll do that 🙂

[funkcityParticipant]

Have you ever tried multiple iPads? 🙂

[funkcityParticipant]

You are right…even in demo mode.
Why did I not see that? 🙂
Thanks

[funkcityParticipant]

The mixer’s Custom Layer is not on the Qu-Pad
The Qu-Pad should have an option to exactly mirror the mixer’s custom layer.

Also,
The Qu-Pad Custom layers are only 8 wide (16 is preferred)

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The Latest:
Assign the ALT output to be LR (POSTFADE) Now the MAIN LR Fader controls all Mix outputs.
Patch ALT out to Stereo 2 Input.
Raise Stereo 2 fader to zero in mix 3 (pull all input faders down off)
Raise Stereo 2 fader to zero in mix 4 (pull all input faders down off)
Raise Stereo 2 fader to zero in mix 78 (pull all input faders down off)
Send -18 tone to LR
Set ALT OUT Gain Knob for zero using Qu-Pad meters mix LR, 3,4, 78 to all be zero (-18)
Set additional delays on 3 and 4 for Vestibule and Outside respectively.

The Choir and Cantor and Guitarist rehearsed. I walked the house and tweaked a bit.
All is cool now and I can begin setting “Scenes”! 🙂

Maybe they can add these??
Scenes and Softkeys are NOT on the Qu-Pad. Boo!
The mixer’s Custom Layer is not on the Qu-Pad
The Qu-Pad Custom layers are only 8 wide (16 is preferred)

[funkcityParticipant]

Where delay compensation is important is when you sum different length signal paths.
Example: LR mix to alt to st2 in to mix78 then on mix 78 you raise input fader5 vocal to give a little more
vocal to the mix78 delayed mix now that vocal from st2 is a different length path from the direct fader 5 on the
78mix. If routing in the box is implemented part of the delay compensation scheme would be to line up the similar signals.

[funkcityParticipant]

Thanks all….good points!
The extra routing functions would surely affect the time alignment/delay compensation of the whole mixer.
All these changes affect all.
It will be VERY interesting if and when the new software brings some of these requests.

[funkcityParticipant]

+1 for me as well

[funkcityParticipant]

actually 2 track out is exactly that.
I am currently using ALT from LR Pre (I may switch to LR Post)
But best would be an internal routing capability.

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