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Scene fades

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2010/01/27 at 2:16 pm #22248

Reidsound
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Does anyone know if it is possible to add fade times to a scene? If it’s not, is this something that might be possible to add for future revisions of the firmware?

Darren R. Sussman
Owner
Reid Sound, Inc.

2010/01/28 at 9:23 am #25107

Stix
Participant

I think it’s been requested before but no this isn’t possible at the moment with the iLive – although I have made a custom logic Studio environment that lets you do sequenced crossfades of levels via midi and it also stores all levels/mutes in 32 standalone scenes. Designed to work with a mackie/Logic control as a remote controller.
More info and possible demo video to come…

Richard
IDR48/T112

2010/01/28 at 9:38 am #25108

Stealth
Moderator

Hi Darren

No it is not possible to crossfade between scenes i’m afraid. This feature is on the feature request list for future firmware. []

Regards
Sam A&H

2011/04/15 at 12:25 pm #27989

LifeLike
Participant

Has this been rectified with the recent firmware upgrade at all?

If not, any ideas on when is this going to be integrated as it is an important factor for our work, as I am sure it is for many others… and our old 02R’s can do it…

Trent

2011/04/15 at 5:09 pm #27991

Stealth
Moderator

Hi LifeLike

Scene crossfades have not been implemented in iLive firmware. We are aware that this has been requested by some customers in the field and is on the ver long list of requested features. unfortunately this has not been a feature that is high up on the request list so has been implemented.

What are the most important features within the system that you need the ability to crossfade?

Regards
Sam A&H

2011/04/15 at 9:46 pm #27993
Dave
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quote:

What are the most important features within the system that you need the ability to crossfade?

First thought…all.

Narrowing down the list a bit:
- Gain
- Pan
- Effect sends/returns
2011/04/16 at 3:28 pm #27996
woutert
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quote:
Originally posted by dburris

Narrowing down the list a bit:

Gain

Pan

Effect sends/returns
I would definitely start with all fader levels! and yes, effect sends and return levels.

My 2 cents,
+100000000000000000000000 on scene fading by the way

Wouter
2011/04/20 at 5:28 pm #28047

Nettan
Participant

Gain
Fader
Fx sends

For us theatre guys wery useful

2011/04/20 at 5:40 pm #28049

Nettan
Participant

also scene name/nr/next scene display

2011/04/20 at 10:31 pm #28052

Stix
Participant

Someone care to explain a situation where you would need GAIN to crossfade between scenes? I get why timed crossfades of fader levels, pans, and aux levels would be good between scenes – but timed Gain changes?

Cheers

Richard Howey
Audio Dynamite Ltd
IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72/Mixpad

2011/04/20 at 11:53 pm #28054

Dave
Participant

quote:

Originally posted by Stix

Someone care to explain a situation where you would need GAIN to crossfade between scenes? I get why timed crossfades of fader levels, pans, and aux levels would be good between scenes – but timed Gain changes?

Depends what you mean by gain. I’m talking about channel faders, not preamp. From there it should be relatively obvious.

2011/05/04 at 1:48 am #28156

Anonymous
Inactive

I would agree that it would be useful for faders and sends/returns to have this ability. I work in a theatre, and timed crossfades would be a very welcome feature addition. Does anyone at A&H know if there is anything other than software/firmware that would prevent this from eventually being implemented?

Brandon Walls
Sound Engineer
First United Methodist Church
Cookeville, TN

2012/03/24 at 5:38 am #30094

frozenwaffles
Participant

Hi, please add scene fade times for fader vales and pan values.

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2012/04/02 at 6:12 pm #30318

Anonymous
Inactive

+1 more for timed crossfades. On the show I’m touring at the moment, one routine is split into four scenes on the surface, to enable the performers onstage to be panned left/right so that their position in the stereo image matches their position onstage.

At the moment, I have to be careful about where to cue the change as the voice will jump from one side of the stage to the other!

2012/04/04 at 4:20 pm #30327

RayS
Participant

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Originally posted by Stealth

Hi LifeLike

Scene crossfades have not been implemented in iLive firmware. We are aware that this has been requested by some customers in the field and is on the ver long list of requested features. unfortunately this has not been a feature that is high up on the request list so has been implemented.

What are the most important features within the system that you need the ability to crossfade?

Regards
Sam A&H

I must admit to being more than a little sadden at this response……scene crossfades have been implemented on nearly every digital consoles since the advent of the venerable 02R, even the analog midas XL4 had 0 to 10 seconds scene crossfades, 20 yrs ago!!!!! Aside from the much needed multiband compressor and the ability to mute/unmute individual EQ bands I fail to see what other feature could be more necessary that the scene x fade.

It would seem that A&H, with the introduction of the gld, have clearly set their goals to compete with the likes of the m7cl or ls9 crowd leaving the higher end users with little to celebrate……While I enjoy mixing on my iLive system, I find myself jealous of competitors’ (Digico ) rapidly increasing feature sets and scene implementation…….Unlike other posters I do not care for the need to mix with an iphone, ipad or other gadget, and while I am well aware of the iLive’s cross market appeal and A&H ‘s need to please the lower end user as well as the seasoned pros, I need pro gear, and that, includes scene fades…..

Faders
FX levels
Pans
and I would add EQ band gains

RayS
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