[JMaya]

Hi Brian;

No way , the DM0 is on a climatize technical room with other several gear (Video , light a and all IT stuff) and some times the table were is C1500 dont existe and everything is control by ipad.

The venue in one day can been done one concert , the other day a dance perfomence and the other day a corporate ….must be very flexible and some times everything is just controlled with a ipad

[JMaya]

Hi Brian;

I dont want I portable System, and I dont are regret of buying the C1500, it is excellent controller and if I dont need the local IN/OUT I can use it with a normal ethernet connection on the C1500.

My case is ( and I am not the only one) a fixed installation in a auditorium here the C1500 is connected to the network infrastructure and the MIXRack (DM0) it is installed in a technical room very fair from the stage and all the stages boxes are DANTE. On the technical I have a computer with a rednet card and SuperTack with Waves PLugin and I can control them were the C1500 is because I have a small computer with team viewer connect to the SuperRack , so everything runs on DANTE very nice.

I just sorry that can use the 6 analogue IN/OUt’s on the C1500 because they just can be used with a gigaAce cable connected ….I dont need the 300 channels performence of gigaAce on the C1500… just the 6 channels something that can be resolved with a special card that converted them direct to dante…

I this moment I have the problem resolved with two dante interfaces….one from Sonifex for headphone amplification and one from neutrik for one pair of of analogue. in/outs…

[JMaya]

Hi Dave….yes you are right….I dont need gigaACE on the surface for nothing…..and in fixed installations this will be a dream can true….all the ecosystem I have is based in DANTE…. I use DM0 with a DANTE128 card and with Dante stages….. all my speakers are Dante, all my wireless microfones are Dante, …..all my interfaces and sources are Dante…My Surface is allways changing place of operation and the only thing we need to connect is a Power cable and a Fiberoptic that carry all the VLAN we use (Control, Dante, Artnet, NDI,) …. So I have 6 Analogue IN/OUTs and phones on the Surface that I cant use…..:( I have to add to my working area a phones amp with dante and a dante neutrik interface to have 2ins and 2 outs for stuff I need to connect….

[JMaya]

Hi andiabwaerts;

With FIR Filters and integration with Smaart they are very few.

Something like “TRACT System Calibration ” from waves but in a card.:)

[JMaya]

Hi mstel;

All you say I already realise , and for that ….is the big limitation….why the hell dont H&A just make the surface local in/outs be like a stage DT168 or DX168 but with just the in/outs they have now (6 in/outs analogue + aesebu and phones) ….:(

[JMaya]

Hi Nicola ; yes I already understand that…my suggestion is, the same way you make a C1500 lighter to travel (Ti)….why not make a version of C1500 without gigaACE and only with Dante / analogue 8in/outs and phones ……this will me grate for guys like me that have fixed installations .

[JMaya]

Hi SteffenR;

I know that….I think you still dont understand my point.

Best Regards
Joao Maya

[JMaya]

Hi Steffen;

I know that is not possible , but it is a very big backdrop for something ease to resolve.

And other think I know what tines are….we can simple for exemple send the Analogue IN1 from the surface to OUT1 of the DANTE Card on the Surface (if installed) ….

In Resume we have a very nice surface (C1500 in my case) that works fine without gigaACE to controls, you just need to use a ethernet connection to switch from your fixed installation and have the Mixrack (DM0 with dante card in my case) in room far away , and use Dante Stages in any place ; but if you want the use the 8 analogue IN/OUTS from the surface and the headphone out you have to USE a DEDICATE CAT6 cable to conecte each other ……..not so smart when with a DANTE card on the Surface has just to tieline that inputs to the Dante outs….them I can Patch from the card DANTE on the surface to the card DANTE on the Mixrack and use normally that channel .

[JMaya]

SteffenR;

1º In the Surface it is NOT possible to choose the clock from Dante , when you have a DAnte card on the surface ( I try it )

2º The Work Clock BNC input on the surface (when Select ) it is to be used by the gigaACE.

I gone explain again what is the idea.

I want to have DANTE card in both MIX Rack and Surface , one on each .

I Want to make TIE Lines on the surface from the Analogue IN’s and OUT’s to DANTE Card installed on it …..and here start the problem…..if you dont have a gigaACE cable connected dont let you make you that tielines.

The idea is have a DANTE Eco system without gigaACE.

The control can be done just with the normal ethernet port on the Mixrack and Surface….

Hope that be clear.

regards
Joao Maya

[JMaya]

Hi SteffenR;

It is not true….You Cant chose on the Surface the Clocksource ….it is all ways the clock that came on gigaACE . If for exemple you have a DANTE card on the surface you cant chose that the preamps on the surface have the clock from the dante card on it.

[JMaya]

Hi SteffenT;

I know how the GigaACE works….the problem is other…the same way it is possible to chose SyncClock in the RAcks….it will be nice to do the same on the surfaces……. It is a question of simple Firmware .

[JMaya]

msteel;

The problem is that is not possible to chose on the surface other clock source…..it is always gigaACE by default ……BIG DRAWBACK …….. But something that I almost can swear that A&H can resolve with a firmware upgrade on the Surfaces……

[JMaya]

I dont want to use gigaCAE .

[JMaya]

HI Nicola;
This is a big disappointment. It would be possible in a future firmware upgrade this will be possible ? In fixed installations like ours, the DM0 is mounted in a technical area and is connected to the building’s IT structure network and the control surface moves from one side to the other and in these places we only have structure network connections (Control and Dante ) and as you know the gigaACE protocol is not easy if not impossible to cohabit in a structured network.

[JMaya]

Because the Surface dont let you chose the clock you want ….just work with the clock from the input os the gigaACE….

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