SQ Reverb Thoughts

[tourtelot]

It seems there are no specific reverb add-ons for my SQ6.

The job I am getting ready to do early next month, a live recording of a highly rated opera company, usually has an outboard Bricasti M7 reverb attached via analog send/return.

Now, knowing that the SQ’s built-in reverb isn’t a Bricasti M7, what are some thoughts about setting and using the A&H verb and not needing to tote the Bricasti. The final output is a live broadcast on the local FM classical station and, the next day, a live stream to the web. Full size opera house, always sold out.

Thanks.

D.

[Dave]

I’d like to know too, so I look forward to hearing comments.

Just thought I would add this since it might be helpful:
Keith does a good roundup and explanation about the reverbs in the SQ in his tutorial video “SQ&A Episode 10” he even explains the Expert settings.

[Brian]

Personally I would continue to use the Bricasti for a number of reasons. First, it’s what has been used in the past and therefore gives the “expected” results. Second, the reverbs that A&H offer come NOWEHERE close to replicating the Bricasti. There is a lot of speculation that the “stereo” reverbs aren’t even true stereo but rather dual mono. That would explain why the tend to sound so flat.

[Hugh]

Even though the SQ FX may not be up to the Bricasti hard ware performance standard or the Waves custon reverb plug-ins, it still is light years ahead of the FX that comes with the CQs!
Hugh

[Hugh]

There are two highly regarded plug-ins that replicate the Bricasti 7 reverb magic: Liquid sonics “SeventhHeaven” & Samplicty “M7 impulse Responses”. Either one will work very well with my Studio one DAW however the CPU drain may be too much for the SQ’s FPGA defined power allocations. I would appreciate any expert thoughts Keith may offer pursuant to any future possibilities of either of these outstanding plug-ins being offered with any A&H desk.
Hugh

[Brian]

“I would appreciate any expert thoughts Keith may offer pursuant to any future possibilities of either of these outstanding plug-ins being offered with any A&H desk.”

Have you not been paying attention to what A&H is doing? I think it is crystal clear what the limitations are on the current systems that A&H offers…..

DLive just got a new FX card (the RackUltra FX card) that is an addon processing card that drastically improves the quality of the reverbs, delays, etc. Clearly A&H needed to increase the amount of available processing power before it could improve the FX quality and the new addon FX card provides this extra processing capacity. We are all very hopeful that A&H will eventually bring that card to the Avantis since it has a similar internal expansion card slot. The SQ and other console models do not have any such expansion card slot and therefore none of the other offerings are going to see any remarkable improvement in the FX quality because it’s clear that the available FPGA processing power is not great enough to support these “high quality” FX plugins.

Therefore I think it is clear… No, the SQ and other consoles are not going to be able to clone the “SeventhHeaven” or “M7 impulse Responses” plugins and match their audio quality, nor will we see any dramatic improvement in the quality of the existing FX sounds. While A&H may continue to offer new FX (because you can still only run X number at a time regardless of how many are available to choose from), there isn’t more processing power to make them “sound better”.

[tourtelot]

Ah, this worked. I used my copy of Reaper (via Dante) to run an effects send (SQ Aux6) to Altiverb, returning to a stereo input. Works perfectly. I don’t think I am worried about latency since what is a reverb but controlled latency. 🙂 If it works with Altiverb (a nice reverb plug-in BTW), it would seem to mean that it would work with Seventh Heaven as well?

If I wasn’t running Reaper as a backup multi-track recorder, I think it would be a toss-up whether to bring the hardware Bricasti or the MacBook Pro. Since Reaper is running anyway, why not?

D.

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