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  • #27917
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    xvisionbelgium
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    Gig Ethernet is ok, I know, but with DVS all the audio framing is done in software and this takes “time”…

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    Originally posted by steffenromeiss

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    Originally posted by xvisionbelgium

    Well if they can develop a ExpressCard (notebook) with the same specs it would be great.


    GBit ethernet would be enough for 64 channels …no express card needed

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    #27913
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    Well if they can develop a ExpressCard (notebook) with the same specs it would be great.

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    Originally posted by woutert

    I perfectly see that a dedicated hardware can be faster :-)
    no reason to trash Dante however :-) they offer this too:

    https://www.audinate.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=241

    Latency Network latency as low as 150us.
    Round trip latency (including the audio application)
    as low as 2.99ms
    Onboard hardware

    Although I don’t know how they can say something about roundtrip including the audio app, if they don’t know what the audio app will be. However I you build a custom server just to use waves, there are no apparent technical reasons why Dante could not be just as fast as Soundgrid. Soundgrid seems interresting, however don’t know their prices.

    655€ for a 32×32 card. proprietary layer 2 protocol…

    Soundgrid seems nice however, so I do support you asking for this :-)

    Wouter
    My prayers have been heard, Dante is coming!


    #27909
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    Assuming that you can actually use the “best” setting in DVS…
    I hope this works (I’m actually waiting until a I can test this with a dante card in an ILive….)

    With a Yamaha or Digico Console and soundgrid server/network it is possible to get in down to 2 to 3ms, including the plugin processing (plugin dependant), and that is useable, even for in-ear monitoring (Love the C4 compressor for this)

    I’ve also checked the latency using Ethersound (ASIO Streamer), also the same problem and way more expensive.

    The only “acceptable” on paper seems to be MADI with an RME interface on the PC end. But native soundgrid would be way better

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    Originally posted by woutert

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    Originally posted by xvisionbelgium

    Yeah
    I know about the Dante card,
    But the latency on the DVS (Dante Virtual Soundcard) makes this a good as useless…


    So 5ms roundtrip (4ms DVS + 1ms ASIO driver on the returnpath) is too much??

    check this article:
    https://mixaction.com/latency-theatre-sound-cues-asio-and-your-theatrical-production-project/

    “Round Trip Latency” – should be less than 11 milliseconds for best results.

    Wouter
    My prayers have been heard, Dante is coming!


    #27903
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    Yeah
    I know about the Dante card,
    But the latency on the DVS (Dante Virtual Soundcard) makes this a good as useless…

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