[MattLWParticipant]

> Lastly, by passive audio split are you talking about something like this?

Yes pretty much (that one looks like it has isolated outputs and ground lifts built in, so fairly fancy). At the simplest (/cheapest) level you can have what is effectively multiple y-splits, to feed two I/O boxes from the one set of inputs on a master panel.

My own one is 32 way of XLR-f’s on rack panels (in a 5u I think) case, with two tail coming out the back (y-Split for each input) , short ones goes to the FoH desk I/O next to it and the other (longer) directly into the back of my monitor desk (I’ve a Yammie QL and a GLD so too costly, for me, to do digitally and I get redundancy having to separate i/o systems, as well as no fighting over HA gain’s : O P ).

m

[MattLWParticipant]

‘Can’t even be used as a monitor mixer unless you drop down to 48K.’

Use a passive split to feed both desks I/O boxes, then you get 96k on the Avantis, 48k on the GLD and a bit of redundancy to boot (I’ve never quite understood the all egg’s in the one basket approach having a digital split, more so with I/O that uses redundant networking too.. not that Avantis does but I digress).

Out of interest why has your design engineer gone Avantis if you have a perfectly usable GLD?

m

[MattLWParticipant]

That’s maybe why he’s posted on A&H’s very own forum…. ??

[MattLWParticipant]

Awesome! Thanks for that Mrvoltz, But without wishing to sound rude, maybe engage the brain (and eyes) before the keyboard…….?!

(Clue been the ‘2u’ in my question….. ; o )

‘Matt the website says the following about the AB 168

The rack’s rugged design, including rubber bumpers, renders it highly roadworthy and allows it to be placed on the stage floor during performances. Weighing in at just 4.8kg and featuring a sturdy carry handle, AB168 is also designed for maximum convenience and portability. An optional rack mounting kit is also available.’

[MattLWParticipant]

Thanks for the replies.

Bit of a pain (in the particular application in mind i’ll have to run 40m of cat5 back then…), but what I expected.

Out of interest, is that a software or a hardware restriction? And are there any plans for a 16/8 in a 2u rack box ?

Cheers,

matt

[MattLWParticipant]

>I haven’t yet figured out how to get preamp control and +48v on preamps that aren’t part of the 44m+2st when trying to get them
>straight to another output. I have a feeling that a socket will need be be made part of the 44m+2st, preamp gain and +48v set,
>then it can be unassigned from the 44m+2st and it will retain its settings.

Have you tried connecting the ipad app, going from memory I believe that gives you access to all the channels, even if they are not on the surface.

-matt

[MattLWParticipant]

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Originally posted by Rob Spence

I am still wrapping my head around the differences from the Yamaha way and the GLD so if someone could give me a hint…

I want to patch a socket to 2 channel strips so I can process them differently. My most common reason is to have a copy of a vocal channel to use with monitors so I have dynamics going to the main mix but no dynamics for the monitor mix and also being able to have differing EQ settings for both.

My initial approach was to simply drag the channel to 2 places on the surface but that didn’t do it. I just had 2 copies… duh!

Thanks

rob at lynxaudioservices dot com

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Hi Rob,

If you want to do channel processing, you need to use a channel strip, there are about 48, so just use one you don’t have a physical input for (as you have, shouldn’t be a worry with 2 x AR84’s… plenty spare!), you don’t lose an input’s doing it that way as you can assign any input to any channel strip.

If you used a ‘Y-cord’ you would benefit from having two physically separate inputs. Using the soft patch, you get the same head amp and use up one less physical input.

Y-splitting works just as it does on an LS9 I believe.

Hit select on a channel strip -> Make sure your in the channel processing view -> Select Preamp (so your in the preamp ‘processing’ screen on the touch screen).

(on the PC editor, you need to select the channel, hit processing, then preamp)

Preamp processing page then lets you change the input socket feeding the processing channel (as you would change the head amp feeding a channel strip on an LS9).

That what your after?

hth

matt

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

[MattLWParticipant]

Ah, so I’m not being blond then!

I can find it by going to the L/R bus channel strip, but as you say in your previous post: “Why not have it all on the same screen”. I agree!

Cheers,

matt

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

[MattLWParticipant]

Try wedging a big lump of flightcase foam under it (easy to remove, but should support it), I do that with amp racks sometimes when I need to space the amps out.

BTW I’d like to know: Why is there no Link port on the back’s of the AR2412 & 84 unit’s, could do without the 2m lump of Ethernet cable hanging out the front (not got a short link made up as yet as it’s just come out the box…..) and why the AR2412 comes with feet on it… PITA to remove them to rack with the AR84 below….

Cheers

m

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

[MattLWParticipant]

I appreciate that, but something like a DCA thats controlling other channels I’d really want to be able to access/see, perhaps I’m a little paranoid, without having to re-assign to a physical channel to get to.

Cheers,

m

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

[MattLWParticipant]

That’s kind of what I figured as I was writing, but to me, if you can’t access the DCA’s via the touch screen then I’d want them as channel strips, which is a bit of a waste if it’s just for mutes..

(I’m assuming I haven’t misses a touch screen page for the DCA’s)

Cheers,

Matt

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

[MattLWParticipant]

Thank Pit,

Knew the the global pre/post would be something silly I’d missed! Late at night (I’d only really pulled it out to update the firmware, ended up doing a bit more ) and I had been expecting to find it somewhere as an option on the screen.

When I had the rack output side(FXreturn) PEQ selected last night, it definitely wasn’t coming up on the physical controls at all. Will have to power it up and double check that.

Cheers,

matt

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

[MattLWParticipant]

Thanks for the reply time.

Funnily enough just found the ‘tap point’ tonight, just before reading your post.

Was I imagining the option of double tapping on the screen to reset the PEG gain?

And two further questions: How do you/can you: Globally set an aux to pre/post fade. The routing screen looked like it globally set the ‘tap point’, but not the pre/post fade.

And, on the PEQ screen for the efx racks outputs, why don’t the ‘channel strip’ (left of touch screen) EQ controls become active for this PEQ in there?

Cheers,

Matt

http://www.lite-works.co.uk

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