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I have 5 ME1, Dante interface, 32 channels of A to D and a really nice tactical ethernet snake. Even if there was no more software updates to my GLD80, knowing if a GLD generation 2 was coming and the rest of my ecosystem was still viable would be some relief.

Honestly, I am still smarting because of having bought my GLD80 early in its (pre-X32) product cycle, have seen the residual value drop due to two price reductions and then sales offered with the a/d converters. I realize these mixing boards are not pure investments but oh my wallet aches. I know… bitch, bitch..

John

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Steffen,

A surmisation on your part or some inside information? Come on, spill what you know. How “Shure” are you?

John

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As a GLD owner I too am feeling a bit like an island.

John

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Swap the ME1 between a position that looses its mind and one that doesn’t. That would be interesting.

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With respect I say…

As far as the statement of what console sounds better, I am a bit of a Doubting Thomas. I would need a controlled test environment where there is less than a second between listening to the two consoles with the exact same complex sources, room and loudspeakers. Aural memory has a few second half-life. To say that console A sounds better than console B I heard yesterday at the other venue has too many variables and prejudices for my mind. Even when listening to sine waves on the same system, when two bursts are separated by 20 seconds it is rare to have someone tell repeatedly which is louder with a 2dB difference in level.

Good luck with your console of choice. I can’t think of a “BAD” console that is sold today.

John

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To the OP,

Personally I still would not purchase a console without side-chain compression. With it available on the todays cheapest digital consoles that feature being absent on the GLD would be a deal killer for my purposes. I really do like my GLD80 but don’t use it much anymore.

Hopefully a GLD80 MK2 will be modern so just my console needs replacing. I would like to retain the rest of my GLD ecosystem. As soon as a new GLD is announced I guess my present one will go for sale. Feel free to PM me anyone.

John

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Scott,

Very interesting video. I will favorite it on my browser. Thank you for the pointer. I will probably incorporate a few of his techniques into my next mix.

What cannot be done here is to reduce the level of the instruments that compete spectrally with the vocals. You only have the option of things going louder from your threshold.

John

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I totally agree that the ergonomics and change of fader positions on the GLD are superb. This is the biggest frustration with the X32. I would say if you are doing the same band repeatedly then side-chain compression is a must. If you do festival style you never get enough time to fine tune your mix and will never use side-chain compression. Also the X32 cannot fade between scenes like the GLD can. The touch screen is wonderful on the GLD too. GLD scene recall is inelegant though.

I use a digital console in a church environment and use side-chain to slightly dim the guitars and keys during vocal peaks to keep the vocals on top without allowing the mix to get very loud. The vocals also have a bit of compression on each channel, self keyed of course. A multi-band compressor on the main mix just doesn’t cut it here.

I use side-chain compression to significantly dim the reverb and echo (about -18dB) when vocals are dominant and as they stop the effects being overbearing. This keeps the vocals up front and clear. This can sound gorgeous when used correctly.

A GLD with side-chain compression would be my ultimate weapon. I can dream, can’t I?

John

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Personally I won’t purchase another mixing board unless it includes side-chain control of compression. It has become such an integral part of my usage lately. I have stopped using my GLD80 and use an X32 which is less than half the price for the church I mix at. If I had side-chain limiting on my GLD I would be in nirvana. Don’t get me wrong, there are things that frustrate me about the X32. The GLD has much easier setup and ergonomics. The A&H personal mixers are quite pricey too for lower channel count IEM mixing needs. The folks at A&H don’t make an appearance on this forum too much lately so something is up.

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Allow me to add one vote for a distortion effect. I can see it used on a special passage on a vocal. Sort of like a telephone distortion or the like. Having a singer put his mic thru a stomp box and then sending it to the board is not what I would want to see. Also, I would like to distort an echo during a “call and answer” effect when using a longer delay time.

There would be little use for this in a festival situation but a band that uses one sound person it would be useful.

Since A&H doesn’t make their presence known on this board lately I think making feature suggestions is a study in frustration. We may be orphans.

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The OP states he wants a “single output” denoting mono sum of the L+R.

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Sure would be nice to hear from the folks at A&H though. Even if it is to say development has ended. At least we would stop banging our heads against a wall trying to help them with suggestions.

John

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I guess we iLive owners and GLD owners are just islands now.

I wish the admins would at least recognize us and spend 5 minutes and answer a few questions.

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First thing I would check is are they both the exact same software revision level? Beyond that I don’t know. Others need to suggest tips.

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Hmmmmm…..I must have dumb-thumbed that option in a flurry of button pushing as I have never consciously visited that page on my GLD80.

But thanks for the education. When I visit my board again at the church I will look in the DCA pages for the solution.

MikeShand, Thanks for the detective work and support.

Chris93, That zero db detent seems like it would be easy to implement if it is not patent protected.

GCumbee, I meant, did you load it into your GLD and try it for yourself? Sorry for the lack of clarity.

You guys rock, thanks.

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