Venue 360 AES in from QU-24 anyone using this

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    topdj
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    Anything I need to be aware of in setting up of this? any advice is appreciated

    #63095
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    joel77
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    I use AES output from my QU32 into my dbx VENU 360.

    Not at my mixer right now, but as I recall, the QU will “see” the AES connection and send LR to it when connected. I don’t recall changing any setting to make this work.

    Be sure you use a quality AES cable. A standard XLR is not recommended from all accounts I read.

    HTH

    Joel
    Glaser Audio Productions

    #63101
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    I seem to recall that Canford Audio once demonstrated AES over wet string at a trade show!

    Link

    While I suggest that you use something slightly more conventional for your cable, I don’t think it’s that fussy in practice. I’ve certainly never had a problem with it when grabbing the first mic lead that comes to hand.

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    Andreas
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    Its probably a matter of cable length and impedance matching. I wouldn’t worry much for short runs (i.e. 10-20m/30-60ft), as long the cable provides low capacitance (signal rate is still 6MHz). Not sure if I’d run AES through an analog multicore, if thats the question.

    #63103
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    I’ve used standard mic cables usually star quad type. I think AES cables are usually 110 ohm like DMX lighting cable. That should work. Nowadays folks are starting to use CAT cable for DMX so that’s a possibility. It’s 110ohm. I would probably use 6 shielded which is what I use now for permanent install jobs for Stage boxes on Qus and GLD.

    #64033
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    how come we don’t have a way to route it to one of the jacks on my 2412 Dsnake rack up toward the stage where I keep my amp racks and speaker processor?

    #64034
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    Because they have DACsbconnected, not AES circuitry…

    #64089
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    topdj
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    now I Need to find a cat5e snake with a AES cable on the same roll 🙂 since the the 2412 stage box does not have AES

    #64092
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    Andreas
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    or just go analogue the last few inches…

    #64098
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    Mike C
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    I have been wanting to try this with my Qu-Pac and into my 360 on the mains.

    For those who have tried it do you notice any improvement in sound, in theory it should sound better by eliminating two digital conversion stages.

    For me cable length would not be an issue as the QU-Pac normally sits on top of the amp racks anyway.

    #64100
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    Andreas
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    I really doubt that any potential sound improvement from skipping the additional DA/AD stage will survive Amps+Speaker+Room+Audience-Noise. This is a pure academic discussion.

    #64101
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    topdj
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    hmm I wonder, I like to avoid as many DA/AD conversions as possible 🙂 my old reel to reels always seem so warm as my records 🙂 on a tube amp 🙂

    #64106
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    Mike C
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    I’ll try it tomorrow at an outside event I’m doing. For testing I’ll use the AES out to drive the out fill speaker zone.
    That test will not be for real critical listening but more for functionality.

    #64107
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    On the proper PA system each skip of conversion is noticeable. Skip as much as you can.

    ddff

    #64108
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    GCumbee
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    Someone can correct me if I’m wrong. CAT cable I think is 110ohm. It’s is approved now for dmx lighting control. Couldn’t you get a dual or Siamese cat 5 or 6 and run the AES on the second cable using 2 pairs? I have ran digital audio from building to building that way.

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