Routing Mix 9-10 to phones

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  • #95528
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    I have Mix 9-10 selected but I don’t hear anything in the cans.

    #95530
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    @gravyface

    maybe you got nothing in the mix?

    or you have something else faded to infinity or deselected or ….

    some more clues about what you actually have set would help

    #95531
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    You not only need to select the mix but you then need to go to the master fader and hit the PAFL button. The master fader becomes the master for what ever mix is selected at the time.

    Do you hear the main output in the phone when there is no PAFL selected?
    Is the headphone volume turned up?
    If you PFL an input channel can you hear that in the headphones?
    Is the master level turned up?

    #95550
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    Sorry guys, didn’t give much info here, had to jet.

    Mix 9-10 has (had) several live mics routed to it; player could hear the mix in his cans, which were directly connected to the Mix Outputs 9/10 XLRs on the back (to a Behringer P1 PowerPlay headphone amp).

    I was going to tweak some EQ/compression on the channels while at the mixer, but couldn’t hear anything out of my headphone output on the Qu. I could hear the main mix, and playback from DAW (routed to 27/28), but when I selected Mix 9-10, heard nothing live from the channels at all, except a lot of hiss actually. Felt really noisy. Only 3 faders up, all guitar mics on the cabinet plus a DI. Again, artist heard everything fine, I just couldn’t hear anything on my cans.

    Channel levels were all good: -18dBFS in the DAW, peaks hitting 0 on the channel LEDs.

    #95551
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    We’re you selecting PAFL on the master fader after you selected mix 9-10 with the blue mix select button?

    Post a picture of the PAFL set up menu on your mixer.

    #95562
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    We’re you selecting PAFL on the master fader after you selected mix 9-10 with the blue mix select button?

    No. Should I be?

    #95563
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    No. Should I be?

    Yes, if you want to listen to mix 9-10 in headphones plugged into the
    headphone jack.

    #95564
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    Yes, if you want to listen to mix 9-10 in headphones plugged into the
    headphone jack.

    Excellent.

    Alt Out follow the same logic/routing?

    #95565
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    Excellent.

    Alt Out follow the same logic/routing?

    ALT OUT is not a dedicated mix it is only an additional output
    that can assigned to any mix out.
    Go into the IO set up menu under the surface tab to assign a mix
    to the ALT OUT.

    #95566
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    If you want Alt Out to have the same signal as the headphones socket, then set it to PAFL – generally this is only wanted by the desk operator.

    If you want it to always have Mix 9/10 on it set it to that.

    Page 16 of the manual.

    #95567
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    Is this for a recording set up or live sound?

    If recording connecting your monitors to the ALT OUT outputs and like Mark suggested
    setting the ALT OUT to PAFL will let you select any source or mix and listen to it in
    the monitors.

    For live sound the ALT OUT set to PAFL works great for mixing monitors and having
    the cue wedge driven from the ALT OUT.

    With the ALT OUT you also have a handy to grab level control.

    #95568
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    Thanks guys. This is for a recording setting, so setting ALT OUT to PAFL seems like best approach here so I can cycle through the artists’ mixes (5/6, 7/8, 9/10, Groups 1/2, and 3/4).

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