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2021/01/28 at 2:00 pm #98417
iLive and dLive work in the same way, the mixrack is the console, your T112 surface and any dLive equivalent is just a remote control and does no processing.
The mixracks are not interchangeable between the iLive and dLive ranges so if you wish to replace the T112 with a dLive surface you’ll need to buy a replacement mixrack to suit.
Your existing cabling will be fine but if you go S class you may want an extra CAT cable between surface and mixrack to utilise the GigaACE redundancy.2021/01/15 at 11:10 pm #98122True there’s more to it than that, I was tring to give a simple overview without gtting into the fine technical details.
For fibre selection in small stand-alone fibre systems that most productions require distance and cost are really the deciding factors in my experience.
In larger more complex systems where you may be needing to connect into existing or third party fibre infrastructure then other factors may come into play.If you really want an intro to fibre then I’d recommend watching the PracticalShowTech video below.
It’s produced by guys that are involved in the big boys production world of stadium touring, presidential inaugurations and the like so there is a lot of emphasis on long range single mode fibre that tends to be used in that world (again selected for distance capabilities I expect) but most of the information presented applies to short range multimode too.https://practicalshow.tech/show-archive/fiber-guy-friday-with-jesse-madison-pst-050?rq=fiber
2021/01/15 at 2:43 pm #98100Hi Steffen
SR is Short Range, works with multimode fibre and is good for 500m or so distance (usually LED based optics).
LR is Long Range, works with single mode fibre and is good for kms of distance (usually laser based optics).Pick based on distance or if you’re not in control of the fibre then pick to match the fibre type you must work with.
I use short range as it’s my fibre and I’m not exceeding 500m distances but with the TP Link converters should I ever need to connect to someones single mode fibre I can easily swap the SFP cheaper than changing out the entire converter.2021/01/10 at 11:14 pm #98029Digico and A&H are owned by the same holding company.
I suspect that the Digico boxes are just leveraging the R&D investment and tooling that A&H have already made in the boxes but they are different products and only work with their respective consoles.2021/01/10 at 10:49 pm #98027Edited above but got blocked. Maybe it will come through but just in case.
Don’t think Digico boxes work with A&H consoles at all and vice versa.
Dante boxes will work across consoles as long as they have Dante interfaces.2021/01/10 at 10:45 pm #98026DX is 96k, AB is 48k.
AB does not work with dLive which is 96k only, works with SQ/QU.2020/12/20 at 11:42 pm #97506Dave that’s how it is right now.
The only scenario with gain tracking available is single Mixrack multi Surface.
In this configuration you divide the 128 channels between however many surfaces you have so it’s not the answer if you need 80 inputs.
Guess multi mixrack gain tracking should go down as a feature request if it’s not already on the list.2020/12/12 at 11:24 am #97198Note that I said possibly, I have no evidence to back that possibility up it’s just something to consider.
Sometimes decisions not to implement something that is technically straightforward are driven by many other business factors.
The LS9 comparison is not exactly apples to apples as once you’ve bought the LS9 you have a contol surface already and there are no options otherwise, MIDI is just remote control.
DLive is an unusual beast in this respect with the console in reality being the mixrack rather than the surface and that makes a full MIDI implementation different to most consoles.
A&H has the business need to drive sales of DLive surfaces, if you can build a surface equivalent with cheap commodity MIDI controllers then there will be some loss of surface sales.
Yamaha is also a much bigger company that A&H (and its parent) so business decisions may be different.
The news of some well known names at A&H being made redundant this week makes me think their priorities right now will be generating revenue and anything which might be counter productive to that won’t happen.Again I have no evidence that this is the reason we don’t see all of the feature requests granted, I’m just saying we need to consider that some decisions will be based on a whole bunch of factors that we as the consumer will never see directly.
2020/12/10 at 2:27 pm #97124I run GigaACE through fibre using TP Link MC220L media converters no issues.
There are a couple of advantages to these converters.
1 – they have a MiniGBIC slot for the fibre connection so you can fit SR or LR GBICs (SFPs) to suit your fibre and easily swap those out if your needs change.
2 – They’re relatively cheap, you’re looking at less than £40 for a converter and a SR MiniGBIC.Dead easy to use, FTP cable from a GigaACE port to converter and fibre out of the MiniGBIC, same at the other end to get back to copper.
2020/12/03 at 10:14 am #96880Some of the MIDI restrictions are possibly driven by business rather than technical concerns.
Chamsys give their software away for free and unlock most features if you attach a piece of their hardware but one feature that remains locked is MIDI control inputs. This is specifically done to protect their hardware business. If you want to use MIDI you have to buy a dongle to unlock it at a price which makes using MIDI hardware as a cheap control surface unatractive compared to just buying some Chamsys hardware.
I would expect the same thinking around fully implemented MIDI for dLive (or any other console).
A fully implemented MIDI specification would allow use of cheap commodity MIDI hardware to be used as a surface which would potentially eat into A&H surface sales.
You might sell more mixracks going this route but maybe if you run the numbers it still doesn’t make business sense.
Remember in the grand scheme of things pro audio is still almost a cottage industry. Economies of scale just don’t exist like they do in the consumer world.2020/11/13 at 10:58 am #96316I’d love to see an NTP client option as has been said before.
There have been counter-arguments to this that NTP is only for big corporate networks but the worlds of AV and IT are merging, certainly in a technology sense.
Not at all suggesting that show networks be hooked up to the IT ones in facilities where that is possible, I still believe keeping them separate or at minimum firewalled is a sensible thing to do most of the time.
There are easy NTP server options for an isolated LAN though.
You can knock up an NTP server on a Raspberry Pi these days for cheap and stick that on your show network to keep everything synced (assuming all devices have an NTP client).
If you want to go the whole hog you can easily add a GPS reciever to the Pi and sync accurate time from the GPS satellites.2020/11/06 at 2:01 pm #96158There are many Dante to AES options out there, as usual as soon as you add Dante to a product they are expensive.
The redundancy thing is just me overengineering things as usual.
Yes there are other single points of failure but anything I can do to reduce those in places which would bring the entire show to a stop I will do.
Lose 1 amp or 1 mic and generally the show goes on. Lose a single rackmounted piece of kit that all of your critical signal flow goes through not so much.
Lots of options just non ideal, I’ll probably end up with a DX012 considering there will be ananloge backup feeds but it does mean losing 2 or maybe ultimately all 4 DX ports if I repeat for both sides of the stage and running 2 more Cat5s with the analogue multi to the amp racks. Or maybe a RedNet, I’m torn at the moment.
If I had AES onboard the mixrack I could run both the AES and the analogue down the same 8 pair multi (they are AES compliant) and all the redundancy, latency and I/O resource usage issues would be sorted.Ultimately A&H making stuff like this available is a question of customer demand rather than anything technical.
Just thought I’d put the idea out there and see if anyone else would benefit from being able to swap 4 analogue outs to 2 stereo AES onboard.
This option was available for iLive, maybe with the vastly greater expandability of dLive it’s not commercially viable but if you don’t ask……2020/11/01 at 9:46 pm #96059I can’t see that ever happening. DX ports are Fast Ethernet (100M) so they don’t have the bandwidth to take the number of channels that a GX provisions.
I expect you’ll need to buy a GigaACE card.2020/03/11 at 3:28 pm #90217If you actually have multiple consoles (ie multiple mixracks with or without surfaces) and they’re plugged into the same network then yes you can talk to all from one laptop although I’m not quite sure how you’d selectively route the MIDI to each mixrack.
If you’re in multi surface mode and have only 1 mixrack in the equation then you only have 1 console anyway so aim your MIDI at the mixrack and have at it.2020/02/03 at 7:51 am #89290Correct, the clock is only visible on the status screen.
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