How to PAFL Master track on Qu-32 (beginner question)

[NakAttack]

Hey guys,
When I try to PAFL the Master, nothing happens. I would expect that the signal to only come out my headphones at that point. This is crucial for my workflow in Ableton, as I need to be able to monitor through headphones without the direct sound feeding back.

Thanks,
Nakul

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[Giga]

I don’t recall ever seeing a desk that mutes from FOH when PAFL’d. Maybe just mute mains when you want to PAFL that mix ?

Good luck !

Giga

[NakAttack]

Thank you for the reply! Sorry, I am still confused. How do I mute mains like you suggested to only hear stuff over my headphones?

[debzdoodle]

Or just use ALT out which has a knob you can use to control FOH ?

[NakAttack]

I’m sorry, I still don’t understand. How do I mute the mains? Debzdooble, are you suggesting that I disconnect my speakers from the Main LR and connect them to the Alt-Out connections so that I can use the knob? I’d have to buy a few cables to make that configuration work since the connectors are different…

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[airickess]

NakAttack, are you wanting to just listen to your mix through your headphones rather than the speakers attached to your Main L/R outputs?

[NakAttack]

Airckess, precisely! The task couldn’t be simpler, but for the life of me I cannot figure it out using the Main L/R outputs.

I’ve tried debzdoodle’s suggestion, which involves using the ALT Outs instead of the main L/R outputs. That seems to work, but I am one TRS cable short so I am waiting on Amazon.

[debzdoodle]

The ALT out method is just a quick and easy way of having control of the FOH volume without changing anything else ( other than making sure the ALT out mirrors FOH) – but of course you do need those TRS cables. If you don’t need stereo you could use just one cable in mono. Simply set ALT out to L + R instead of LR.

[NakAttack]

Thank you! Switching to TRS cables outputting from the ALT section works like a charm.

[garyh]

I’m not at our board right now, but if you mute the master, won’t it still be in the headphones when PAFL’d?

[NakAttack]

Garyh, it doesn’t work out that way. It mutes everything including the headphones. Using the ALT outputs works as a workaround though (I can adjust the ALT out knob in the headphone portion of the board).

[Dick Rees]

Garyh, it doesn’t work out that way. It mutes everything including the headphones. Using the ALT outputs works as a workaround though (I can adjust the ALT out k

It shouldn’t. Take a look at the block diagram. The PFL pick-off point is BEFORE the mute button in the circuit. Check the PFL setup as found on page 61 of the manual. I suspect your board is somehow set up for AFL which comes AFTER the mute button in the circuit.

Turn off “AFL to LR” and see if that doesn’t fix things.

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[Dick Rees]

Yep. Just checked on my Qu. Turn off the LR AFL. It is a bit unclear. It should be labeled to indicate AFL/PFL. As is, enabling LR AFL chooses AFL instead of PFL. AFL seems to be the default for the mains bus.

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[NakAttack]

Ah, thank you for the tips Dick Rees! It is greatly appreciated. I will try this out soon when I replug my XLRs in (I had switched over to the ALT setup). Happy Thanksgiving!

[airickess]

Or you could just not turn on your speakers.

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