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  • #118310
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    Hello,

    I’m about to purchase either the CQ20 or the CQ18 mixer and I am pretty sure I know which one however, I want to make sure that there is nothing here that I’m missing.

    Quick Background:
    I am sometimes running the sound for our 5-piece rock band. Currently, I use a Behringer XR18. I use the XR18 with a laptop and the others use either a tablet or phone for their monitor mixes. I will be the first to admit that I’m not a great sound engineer – especially when trying to get my own rig setup. I’ve had a pro sound engineer mix our last show and he was phenomenal (I didn’t think we could sound that good). He won’t be available for all our shows and while he gave me some tips and has a basic template to start with, the biggest issue I always face is gains and feedback in a new place. I believe the software app will be much easier than the Behringer interface that I’ve used for so long.

    The CQ20 is pretty much the same for factor as the XR18 as well as in/out configuration. That means it which will fit in my rack with little to no changes with the physical setup. I’ve got a powerful network router that I use to network everything together so I don’t need the internal wifi.

    My questions:
    1. Is there any advantage to the CQ18 over the CQ20 that I’m missing BESIDES the built-in screen?
    2. From a useability standpoint, are the auto gain and anti-feedback features that good?
    3. It seems like the workflow and the way they setup the software app, getting up and running for a gig should be pretty easy – is there someone that’s used it can confirm or deny this?
    4. My goal is to make getting a solid/good mix for nights when we don’t have sound man easy and repeatable. Will this do it for me or should I just stay with what I know?

    Lastly, if anyone has used the XR18 and now uses the CQ series would like to weigh in on opinion, I’m happy to listen and take all advice.

    Thanks in advance!

    #118320
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    CQ20B have 20in vs CQ18T 18in.
    You’ll get more input with de CQ20B.

    #118339
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    I had the x18 air mixer & now i have the CQ18t mixer, I find the cq18 on board effects are much better especially the vocal reverbs & delays,the interface is easier to navigate & in built wifi is very stable . Only used in a live situation but in my opinion the cq18T is worth the extra money & def a step up from the x18.

    #118341
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    I’m definitely going to the A&H for either the CQ18T or the CQ20 – your comment and the fact that my X18 is getting long in the tooth pushed me over the edge. I struggled with the on-board effects as well.

    Did you mean to go with the CQ18T over the CQ20 or just in general A&H over the X18?

    I’m not quite sure the CQ18 with the screen/form factor is the right way to go. With the CQ20, I gain ports and swap out my X18 into my existing rack. I’m already used to iPads/Laptops for getting the mix together. I’m trying to see if there is a compelling reason to have the screen on the CQ18.

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    Hi , i had the AH qu16 after my x18 air & was used in a live setting for a 6 piece rock/ pop band , even though was a great desk , when i left the band i wanted to down size without losing the quality of the preamps or effects . Must say the cq18 is spot on for me , i sing , play keys & guitar & use cubasis on my ipad & this desk enables everything i need to do & more. The bluetooth is also handy for practising to backing tracks etc . If i were still in the live band situation i think the cq20 might be better but i have no experience of this . More inputs & rackmount etc etc .
    In the past i have owned the line 6 m20d mixer & its like AH based the cq18t on the M20d & improved/ updated everything that needed fixing . Also recently had an expensive presonus desk & i would still take the AH cq over any i have had . Its a robust unit , wifi airiel is a bit flimsy plastic but just be careful when using . All the best .

    #118353
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    @Monkee – thanks for the explanation. I’m leaning CQ20 because of the form factor for my rack but my local Guitar Center has both units so I’m going to see if I can get to check out the CQ18 in person.

    #118482
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    Just for anyone who might be in the same boat as my original post, I purchased the CQ18 instead of the CQ20 and here are the reasons I did so:

    1. I like having the screen on the mixer itself. The buttons and quick dials are extremely helpful.
    2. The buttons on the screen to switch pages are time saving and once you get the feel of the workflow, very intuitive to use.
    3. I didn’t need the extra input channel and I bought 6 TRS 1/4″ -> XLR Male converters (yes XLR are better but…the screen!)

    Overall both mixers are great so far. I can’t believe how easy it is to get a great mix so quickly! I think I made the right choice with the CQ18 and the screen because my plan is to hookup and use the auto-gains feature as I plug-in. Then I’ll move to the iPad app to do the feedback and set the general sends and main FOH faders. Done. I can then hand off the iPad to someone to adjust the faders on the main FOH if needed.

    Thanks for the input.

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