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Originally posted by bigbean

Touch screens are swell. Really, I like ’em. The Ipad ap is cool. They make great demos.

I especially like pushing the channel strips around on the layers.
It’s Neato.
Groovy.

but

THIS SKU needs AN EDITOR.

Soon………….please.

The surest way to windup with nothing is to wait for everything. On the other hand, the 2nd mouse always gets the cheese.

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What the heck did you do back in the days of only analog? Have you ever mixed on an analog console? Have you ever had to turn the knobs on your comps and gates?

2 X GLD80
2 X AR2412
1 X AR84

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Originally posted by John S

An off-line editor would be a great addition to the GLD. I too run sound for musical plays and found Yamaha Studio Manager very helpful. My old Yamaha 01v96 can be purchased for about $1200 used these days and it has an off-line editor. Used for quick set-up and an overall picture during plays it is a huge time saver.

I was thinking of starting a list of what my old 01V96 has that my new GLD does not (especially at 8 to 10 times the purchase price). I must admit to feeling a bit ripped off when I think of what I had to give up to get the GLD.

Oh, to the person who asked about the old days and mixing analog. We chose to buy new technology and enter the present. We have a reason to expect or at least ask for features that are in much cheaper offerings. I have little need for the iPad option but do not ask people what they did in the old days. I see good applications for the iPad too, just not now for me.

If you purchase a new computer you expect your new one to have at least the horsepower your old one had. If your new computer only allowed 100 megs of RAM you would not be happy I am sure.

Thank you

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Good grief – spare us the whaaaambulance. I’ve got a couple 01v96s that i will trade for your GLD so you feel less ripped off. I would love a spare GLD and would gladly give up all those “missing features” from my 01vs to do it.

It would be great if A&H implemented every feature on everyone’s wish list, and certainly pricing pressure from other low cost options increases the odds of getting those features to stay competitive, but it’s a little much to blame the manufacturer that they’re missing a critical feature and you’ve been ripped off, even though they have never ever indicated they would have that feature. If it is that big a deal, you should have bought something else, or stuck to your Yamahas.

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Originally posted by John S

An off-line editor would be a great addition to the GLD. I too run sound for musical plays and found Yamaha Studio Manager very helpful. My old Yamaha 01v96 can be purchased for about $1200 used these days and it has an off-line editor. Used for quick set-up and an overall picture during plays it is a huge time saver.

I was thinking of starting a list of what my old 01V96 has that my new GLD does not (especially at 8 to 10 times the purchase price). I must admit to feeling a bit ripped off when I think of what I had to give up to get the GLD.

Oh, to the person who asked about the old days and mixing analog. We chose to buy new technology and enter the present. We have a reason to expect or at least ask for features that are in much cheaper offerings. I have little need for the iPad option but do not ask people what they did in the old days. I see good applications for the iPad too, just not now for me.

If you purchase a new computer you expect your new one to have at least the horsepower your old one had. If your new computer only allowed 100 megs of RAM you would not be happy I am sure.

Thank you

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Good grief – spare us the whaaaambulance. I’ve got a couple 01v96s that i will trade for your GLD so you feel less ripped off. I would love a spare GLD and would gladly give up all those “missing features” from my 01vs to do it.

It would be great if A&H implemented every feature on everyone’s wish list, and certainly pricing pressure from other low cost options increases the odds of getting those features to stay competitive, but it’s a little much to blame the manufacturer that they’re missing a critical feature and you’ve been ripped off, even though they have never ever indicated they would have that feature. If it is that big a deal, you should have bought something else, or stuck to your Yamahas.

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We purchased a GLD for my church’s portable system and I *LOVE* it. LOVE it. An incredible value for the price.

BUT – an offline editor would be a nice addition for rider friendliness.

My primary touring gig is mostly an artist doing solo fly dates (artist & piano/guitar/tracks), but we do some full band fly dates as well. We just finished rewriting our rider. I had them add the GLD to the solo rider, but not the band rider, specifically because there’s no editor software to build a show file ahead of time.

The iLive made the cut for the new band rider (along with the obvious M7, CL5, and Avid desks), but the GLD is on the solo rider only, since for solo shows I can dial things in quick enough that the show file doesn’t really matter.

So yes, the GLD is an incredible desk, but editor software would potentially land it on at least one more rider than it’s currently on.

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Originally posted by TJCornish

Feel free….
By all means – request features……
Let’s just spare some of the drama in the asking process.

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Well said! []
The request to add a (from a personal view) nice or important feature to a product that we bought with the advertised set of EXISTING features at that time should be humble and polite.

We all LOVE our GLDs and knew what we would get as we handed over the money.
Let`s stick to friendly proposals.

…. and repeating the same request over and over again does not put it up on the list…..

People using the GLD in churches would benefit from being able to set up the console as needed for the next service without having to go into the church to get access to it. Different if you’re sitting in a warehouse with the desk available to you.

I do agree that it is unreasonable to complain about the absence of a feature that was never suggested or advertised, but not having had something in the past does not mean it may not be useful now or in the future.

…GLD’s didn’t exist in the past either…

Chris

Ryan,

Mixing a band is an entirely different animal from mixing a musical play as I believe you know.

The off-line editor is as useful to musical theater operator as the iPad app is to the live band operator. One is very useful before load-in, one is very useful after load in. That is the most distilled essence of the difference I can think of.

I also mix the occasional festival and one-off show so I also am familiar with your side of the art. Neither discipline is superior. Both are quite different but still fun. As long as we are getting paid all is well.

With a musical 98% of the work is done before opening night. In fact significant work is done weeks before equipment load in. I must put in 10 to 20 hours into a mix before I even hook up my 30 wireless mics and work with actors. We musical mixers also are recalling cues that are (at times) only seconds apart. I regularly have 170 scenes in one performance. My 170 scene memories usually get revised about 12 times before opening night. The big overall picture an editor would provide is a huge benefit here.

That is why some add their voice to the editor software request choir. Like mine for example.

Respect.

John