How many ch’s in a Mon/FOH split setup

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  • #23082
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    Oscar-Soderlund
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    Hi,

    I have a question from one of my clients.
    How many channels can you use maximum in a iLive setup.
    They are now using:
    IDR 64 for main box – Monitor
    IDR 16 for slave – FOH
    And they use redundant MADI multicore, and use Virtual soundcheck.

    I think they want to reach 80-100 channels
    AND,
    Have a redundant multicore soultion with the possibility to do Virtual Soundcheck.

    Can this be achieved by still using MADI,
    or is the only chance to this, going all-in on Dante?

    Thanks,

    Parashoot
    Sweden

    #29299
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    Nicola A&H
    Keymaster

    Hi Oscar,

    iLive allows up to 128 channels in a single Dual-Rack setup (where two MixRacks are joint to form a larger mixer), but typically only 64 channels in a dual system such as FOH/Mon split. Dual (FOH/Mon) Dual-Rack setups are not supported – this is mainly due to sync issues.

    An exception would be a system with modular MixRacks as slaves, as a workaround to achieve up to 96 channels:

    MON
    iDR-64 (Master) with Port B:MADI – Link 1 to iDR10
    iDR10 (Slave) with Port A:MADI – Link 2 to iDR-16 (32 channels only – channel 1-32 reserved for Dual-Rack bus link)

    FOH
    iDR-16 (Master) with Port B:MADI – Link 1 to iDR0
    iDR0 (Slave) with Port A:MADI – Link 2 receiving 64 channels from iDR-64 Link 2

    iDR-16 syncs from Port:B

    Please note channel 1-64 in the MON system would appear as 65-128 at FOH. Channel 65-96 would appear as 1-32 at FOH.
    No MADI redundancy in this scenario I’m afraid.

    The Aux BNC connectors can be used for recording but Virtual Soundcheck would be difficult.

    The same setup with Dante would make life easier for recording and virtual soundcheck by using routing presets in Dante Controller. A Gigabit Ethernet switch has to be used. Full redundancy will be possible with a secondary switch and a future Dante firmware update.

    Hope this helps

    Nicola
    A&H

    #29373
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    Oscar-Soderlund
    Participant

    Thanks Nicola,

    So what would I need to get.
    I have 1 Dante card, guess I need 2?
    And then just a gigabit switch?

    For the redundancy,
    Wien do you think this update will come?
    Next tour is starting in may.

    If you have time, can you give me the setup for doing this.

    Tanks again!

    Oscar

    Parashoot
    Sweden

    #29375
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    Nicola A&H
    Keymaster

    Hi Oscar

    I will send you an email about the setup.

    I can’t answer about Dante redundancy. This is out of our control, as we need Audinate to release the firmware to us first.

    Nicola

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