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  • #22691
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    Oscar-Soderlund
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    Hi,

    The scene editing…!
    Can’t belive this is not number one priority.

    Have heard that this will take a new processor…
    And the air just went out of me, all the enthusiasm over a new Scene Editing just died.
    As I really thought this was coming with the 1.8.

    Everything else feels secondary.
    USB, multi band comps, etc.
    The desks sounds great, its easy to work on and I love it.
    But, the editing is under all standards.
    It’s very hard to convince my clients why they should use a iLive instead of a SD8.
    And it’s all because of the lack of editing scenes.
    So now I’m considering buying a SD8 (as well of course) for the rental stock.

    Hope you are working on a new designed Scene Editing.

    Thanks,
    Oscar

    Parashoot
    Sweden

    Parashoot
    Sweden

    #27746
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    ThomasL
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    Hey Oscar,

    what’s the trouble with Scene Editing?

    Regards,

    Thomas

    In Use & For Rent
    iLive T112 / iDR48
    http://www.lange-ohlemeyer.de
    http://www.lange-ohlemeyer.de/blog

    #27747
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    woutert
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    quote:


    Originally posted by ThomasL

    Hey Oscar,

    what’s the trouble with Scene Editing?

    Regards,

    Thomas

    In Use & For Rent
    iLive T112 / iDR48
    http://www.lange-ohlemeyer.de
    http://www.lange-ohlemeyer.de/blog


    complex,

    timeconsuming,

    no bulk editing,

    some parameters not separatable (like fx sends and monitorline sends, I want fx send levels in my scenes, i do not want monitorline send levels in my scenes, unless i can bulk update them quickly and easily, or make the send level for all channels to a certain monitor mix, “scene safe”),

    no indication of the last recalled scene,

    no workable implementation of autoincrement,

    no central scenes (names of the scenes can depend on the controller)

    #27748
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    Oscar-Soderlund
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    Hi,

    Well, the fact that you can’t edit more than 1 scene a time.
    If a drummer says to you:
    “I want more kick drum in my mix for the hole show”
    And 5 other musicians have the same kind of request.
    Even if you are a hardcore iLive fan, you find it VERY enoying.
    That it’s impossible to do this without steping thru, your maybe somewhat 23 songs/scenes.
    AND have to press store for every song.

    Parashoot
    Sweden

    #27749
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    Oscar-Soderlund
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    A total scene structure rip-off from DigiCo would be perfect.
    And a offline mode would be great.

    Oscar

    Parashoot
    Sweden

    #27752
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    Stix
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    I agree that the scene functionality needs improvement – but with planning you can work around the above monitor send problem by not storing duplicate information into all your scenes. I never store monitor levels other than to certain “Master” scenes throughout a show. Most of the time you only need one master scene at the start that sets all the monitor levels etc. Then if the drummer says “more kick through the show please” then just edit the master scene and you are done as all other scenes don’t include this information. It’s not ideal but so far this works for me. You have to set up edited scenes in advance and then only use “update” instead of Store all.
    Still – we do need the ability to copy/update/remove individual/selected scene elements to all or selected scenes etc in one edit. Scene functionality/safes etc have improved significantly with past firmware updates – lets hope it continues

    Cheers

    Richard Howey
    Audio Dynamite Ltd
    IDR48/IDR16/T112/R72

    #27755
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    Dave
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    It might also be useful to save “Master” scenes and have some subsequent scenes be deltas or offsets from the master. This way you could maintain scene changes and also have scene checkpoints where adjusments to the entire sequence could be done.

    For example, I know from scene to scene that I’ve work out the times when something needs to be louder or softer, but for some venue I need the entire sequence to be 3db hotter. If a series of scenes are only relative to the beginning scene the dynamics is maintained. I would even have the option of inserting additional master scenes in the sequence. One way to manage the sequence is for the intermediate scenes to only store the changes from the previous save or relative to a preprogrammed master.

    #27759
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    RayS
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    quote:


    Originally posted by Oscar Söderlund

    A total scene structure rip-off from DigiCo would be perfect.
    And a offline mode would be great.

    Oscar

    Parashoot
    Sweden


    BIG +1 to both requests

    RayS

    R-72/iDR32/iPS10

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