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2019/02/18 at 4:42 am #82040
I use the delay feature on my Qu outputs & delay my monitors approximately 10-15ms and eliminate feedback problems all the time. Depending on the environment & stage & stage environment, you can accomplish the same thing without feedback programs or units. I make sure there’s no actual delay of any kind to be heard or felt & it works great for me. I’ve also have delayed the outputs as much as 18ms without any problems or delays of the signal only in the right environment. We are all mixing to & balancing our mixes to our acoustic environments.
I have worked with some musicians that could tell something was not right if I started putting up to 15ms of delay on their monitor mix….and they would be letting me know about it.
I have delayed the mains back to the back line a few times and it did help tighten things up a bit.
2019/02/18 at 11:10 am #82049delayed monitors is an absolutly “NO GO”
2019/02/18 at 11:00 pm #82066I’ve found 2/3/4ms delay max to be helpful as (for singer) the performer can actually hear whats coming out of the monitors separate to their “head voice”, I end up turning them down with a small delay, it mimics the ms delay you get with analog, but no where near 15 ms…..
2019/02/19 at 1:06 am #82079ve found 2/3/4ms delay max to be helpful as (for singer) the performer can actually hear whats coming out of the monitors separate to their “head voice”, I end up turning them down with a small delay, it mimics the ms delay you get with analog, but no where near 15 ms…
An all analog mixer path has no latency, well technically it would have some but not even close a full ms, it would be down in the sub nanosecond range.
2019/02/19 at 2:20 pm #82088I don’t believe it…
the delay of analog…
and we discuss latency issues2019/02/19 at 2:38 pm #82089I wonder if the latency through an analog mixer or any analog processor
is really even measurable.For what it’s worth I think the QU spec is 1.2ms from XLR in to XLR out.
2019/02/19 at 2:45 pm #82090I wonder if the latency through an analog mixer or any analog processor
is really even measurable.Electrical signals travel through analog circuits at the speed of light, so it’s basically irrelevant.
2019/02/19 at 3:36 pm #82094Not quite the speed of light, though it can be quite close. Depends what it’s traveling through.
2019/02/23 at 3:47 am #82167Hi Everyone – completely new to forums so please excuse if I don’t follow protocols properly. I have used mixers for many years although my main involvement with sound has been the design and installation of systems. Have just bought a QU16 and feel that the inclusion of some form of automatic feedback suppression would be a definite advantage. While system knowledge and proper training goes a long way towards eliminating most problems, we must remember that in the real world, room acoustics, budget constraints, operator experience, and the time and position constraints involved when using portable systems can all play an overriding part in the end result. Although the QU16 does have variable Q parametrics which are great for notching out the one or two dominant feedback frequencies which sometimes occur, most users of a QU16 size mixer aren’t trained to the degree that they can immediately recognise what those frequencies are. The RTA puts you in the right area but how much easier if the desk just did it for you – or at the very least, gave a readout of what the loudest frequency was. The last three mixers I have installed have been QSC touch-mix’s. While automatic feedback removal was not a primary consideration in their selection, given the skill level of the users, it was a factor.
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