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  • #122734
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    Hello, has anyone managed to get MIDI to work with the CQ-12T?

    I’m trying to get a Behringer X-Touch Mini to work as a physical controller for the faders / mutes etc.

    I’ve downloaded the A&H MIDI control app and tried various settings but I just can’t get my Mac (with the Behringer X-Touch Mini connected) to send anything to the CQ-12T, I am however getting messages from the CQ-12T to the Mac fine.

    With the CC protocol enabled I can see the messages being sent by the CQ-12T (using the MidiView app with CC translator inputs selected as the source in MidiView and CQ-12T as input port in the A&H Midi Control app) and I have set the exact same MIDI settings on my Behringer X-Touch Compact (e.g. to mimic a soft key press) and confirmed that it it sending the same message in the MidiView app when X-Touch Mini is selected as the source in MidiView, but if I select CC translator inputs as the source in MidiView (with the X-touch Mini as the Input port in the A&H MIDI control app) I get nothing. I’m sure it’s a channel/input/output routing thing but I don’t know enough about MIDI to work it out!

    If anyone’s been able to do something similar I would be really grateful if you could provide some step by step instructions for a noob!

    Many thanks

    #122735
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    Can you help by giving here the exact midi message you try to send ?
    CQ midi uses NRPN midi, which is a group of 4 CC sent simultaneously for 1 control.

    For example, MUTE channel 1 is:
    -ch1, CC99 Val 0
    -ch1, CC98 Val 0
    -ch1 CC6 Val 0
    -ch1, CC38 Val 0

    And UNMUTE is:
    -ch1, CC99 Val 0
    -ch1, CC98 Val 0
    -ch1 CC6 Val 1
    -ch1, CC38 Val 0

    #122738
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    Thanks for getting back to me, so I’ve tried Ch1 Unmute as an example.

    Without the A&H MIDI control app open, the message I am getting in MidiView when I unmute channel 1 on the CQ-12T is on attachment 1 (it is a group of 4 but they are Hex).

    Attachment 2 is the message I get with A&H MIDI control app open and CC Translator enabled (Hex 80 00 00).

    Attachment 3 is the message I get from the X-Touch controller when I press the button I have set to unmute channel 1 – it is the same Hex as above but doesn’t do anything to the CQ-12T.

    Attachment 4 is the A&H MIDI control app.

    Not sure if that helps explain things and sorry I’m not sure how that all relates to NRPN midi??

    Thanks again for any pointers you can provide!

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    #122754
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    Don’t know the X-Touch mini but I doubt it can send 4 CC simultaneously.
    I use a stream deck that can send direct NRPN but I just made a try with sending the 4 CC with the push of a button, set to toggle and it is OK.
    There is just a little mistake in my previous post, messages should be:

    MUTE channel 1 is:
    -ch1, CC99 Val 0
    -ch1, CC98 Val 0
    -ch1 CC6 Val 0
    -ch1, CC38 Val 1

    And UNMUTE is:
    -ch1, CC99 Val 0
    -ch1, CC98 Val 0
    -ch1 CC6 Val 0
    -ch1, CC38 Val 0

    #122755
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    I am just working with an APP called MIDI OX, that can easily map CC to NRPN.Here is an example of my little DIY 8 fader CC box controlling the CQ12 FADER.
    My Fader box have 8 faders sending CC 100 to CC107.
    Just set a line for each CC value and set the corresponding NRPN value and done.
    For fader 1, NRPN value is 8192, etc.

    https://www.amazon.fr/photos/share/aKmWtufe0KbDHQq8kww6iGlOe3pmSm06cQjPZcvpyFx

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    #122757
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    Thanks, good to know it’s possible to get it working, I’m on a Mac so will look for an alternative to MIDI OX.

    You’re right, the X-Touch doesn’t send 4 CC simultaneously but my understanding is that the Allen & Heath Midi Control App should do the translation so that it can accept single CC, but maybe that’s where I’m going wrong.

    Thanks again.

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