PL remote monitor setup

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  • 2010/02/07 at 8:39 pm #22256
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    Hi,

    I plan to take an iLive system on tour, the setup will be more or less the following:

    – 32 inputs from stage
    – 4 ear mixes (singers)
    – 5 wedge mixes (band)
    – no monitor desk, no monitor engineer, all monitors will have to be handled by one iLive
    – monitor channel splits on some channels
    – groups for combining

    To have full concentration on the PA mix and the ear mixes I plan to use PL remotes for the band.
    The girls will get a shout mic wired to a shoutbox at FOH, as well as the backliner for monitor cues during the concert.

    Has anybody used PL-6 or PL-10 remotes for monitor mixing?
    Pros and cons of the PL-6 and the PL-10, faders seem to be easier to operate but they are not motorized, what will happen when I change mixes?
    How should the remotes be setup, we would need some sort of stand.
    How can wiring be made “tour grade”?

    Are there alternative remote units?

    Christian Tepfer
    Hamburg, Germany

    2010/02/08 at 8:24 pm #25155
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    definately get PL10’s… if you make an adjustment on the editor or on the surface the LED segments on the remote will “follow” giving a visual indication of the mix parameter. The PL6’s would need to be ran in “Pick-up” mode so you have to “catch” the level before an adjustment registers, this potentially avoids huge volume changes when ran in the other mode.

    Since the PL10’s are not designed for life on the road i suggest you get them individually flightcased and make a whole bunch of cat5 to Ethercon converters so you can use Ethercon cables throughout… v.rugged!

    2010/02/09 at 12:26 pm #25158
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    Thanks, Graham.

    So we stick to the PL10’s. As we try this concept first, I don’t want to case the remotes from the beginning.
    Are there any ways to put them on a music or microphone stand?

    Christian Tepfer
    Hamburg, Germany

    2010/02/09 at 2:10 pm #25159
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    There is no way to fit them to a mic stand as standard.

    You would have to make or buy some sort of top-hat / bracket mount from a 3rd party.

    2010/02/09 at 11:07 pm #25161
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    Okay, I will have to get one PL10 in advance, good thing to think of.

    Thank you for the insights.

    Christian Tepfer
    Hamburg, Germany

    2010/02/10 at 9:31 am #25165
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    Use PL10’s

    If you use a pl9 hub you can make easier connections.
    in holland we have a setup with 10 pl10’s doing 10 IEM mixes.
    you can make a bracket to fit them on to a mic stand.
    you probably would like to have a small cassing for the PL because of the Ethercon connector.

    The PL’s work there ID’s in line (iow 1st pl in line is id 1 2nd is id2)
    every hub output has it own ID (so hub connector 1 1st PL is id 1-1)

    if you want more info on the setup let me know!

    2010/02/10 at 3:00 pm #25171
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    martijn, I am very interested in the bracket. Fitting the PL remotes on mic stands is much preferred.

    Christian Tepfer
    Hamburg, Germany

    2010/02/11 at 9:20 am #25174
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    I have the answer for you… check out this bracket that Aviom make:

    https://www.aviom.com/Product-Categories-6/Accessories-33/MT-1-Mic-Stand-Mount

    I bit of velcro on the PL10 and on the top of this would work perfectly. and it is for sale for $30 at https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MT1/

    Cheers
    Graham

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